Talk:Lake Shore Limited

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[edit] Rating assessment

This article was recently listed for reassessment at Wikipedia:WikiProject Trains/Assessment. I think Start class is still appropriate because:

  • there is no separate lead section
  • there are no references except for one sentence that says "according to Amtrak..."
  • there are no images other than the service logo; photos of the train in operation and a route map would be helpful
  • other than the first section, the article is too list-heavy.

For further improvement ideas, the guidelines for Good and Featured articles should help. Slambo (Speak) 11:43, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Confused

I was trying to buy tickets online from Chicago to Boston, and Amtrak told me that would require boarding a bus at Albany. Has the train service to Boston been cancelled? Fishal 03:12, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Miscellaneous Info

The following was placed in the article, I feel that everything but the current train info was useless, in a sense, but I didn't want to throw it out (it may be of use).

Between 1984 and 1996, a typical train on the Lake Shore looked like:

  • F40 engine - between Chicago and Boston
  • F40 engine - between Chicago and Boston
  • EMD FL9 engine - between Albany and New York
  • Material Handling Car - goes to Boston
  • Heritage Fleet baggage car - goes to Boston
  • Heritage Fleet Slumbercoach (New York 1984-1991, 1995-1996 – Boston 1991-1995)
  • Heritage Fleet 10/6 sleeper - goes to Boston
  • Coach (usually Amfleet II, occasionally Heritage Fleet) - goes to Boston
  • Coach (usually Amfleet II, occasionally Heritage Fleet) - goes to Boston
  • Coach (usually Amfleet II, occasionally Heritage Fleet) - goes to Boston
  • Café / Lounge car (usually Amfleet II, occasionally Heritage Fleet) - goes to Boston
  • Heritage Fleet diner - goes to New York
  • Coach (usually Amfleet II, occasionally Heritage Fleet) - goes to New York
  • Coach (usually Amfleet II, occasionally Heritage Fleet) - goes to New York
  • Coach (usually Amfleet II, occasionally Heritage Fleet) - goes to New York
  • Heritage Fleet 10/6 sleeper - goes to New York
  • Heritage Fleet baggage/dorm - goes to New York


Between 1996 and 1999, the Lake Shore looked like:

  • P42 engine (Chicago-Albany) - When no P42s were available, P40s or F40s were used instead
  • P42 engine (Chicago-Boston) - When no P42s were available, P40s or F40s were used instead
  • P32 engine (Albany-New York) - When a P32 was not available, one of the few remaining EMD FL9s was used instead
  • Heritage Fleet baggage car (Boston)
  • Viewliner sleeper (Boston)
  • Amfleet II Coach (Boston)
  • Amfleet II Coach (Boston)
  • Amfleet II Café (Boston)
  • Amfleet II Coach (New York)
  • Amfleet II Coach (New York)
  • Amfleet II Coach (New York)
  • Heritage Fleet diner (New York)
  • Viewliner sleeper (New York)
  • Viewliner sleeper (New York)
  • Heritage Fleet crew dorm rebuilt from a 10/6 sleeper (New York)
  • Heritage Fleet baggage car (New York)


Between 1999 and early 2003, the consist of the train appeared as such:

  • P42 engine (Chicago-Albany)
  • P42 engine (Chicago-Albany)
  • Material Handling Car (Chicago-Albany)
  • Heritage Fleet baggage car (New York)
  • Heritage Fleet crew dorm rebuilt from a 10/6 sleeper (New York)
  • Viewliner sleeper (New York)
  • Viewliner sleeper (New York)
  • Heritage Fleet dining car (New York)
  • Amfleet II Coach (New York)
  • Amfleet II Coach (New York)
  • Amfleet II Coach (New York)
  • Amfleet II Coach (New York) - Between the late Fall and early spring, the New York section carried only three coaches
  • Amfleet II Café (Boston)
  • Amfleet II Coach (Boston)
  • Amfleet II Coach (Boston)
  • Amfleet II Coach (Boston)
  • Viewliner sleeper (Boston) - Between the late Fall and early spring, the Boston section didn't carry a sleeper
  • Heritage Fleet baggage car (Boston)
  • Material Handling Car (Albany-Boston)
  • Mateiral Handling Car (Albany-Boston)

--​​​​D​​tbohrer​​​​talk•contribs 01:50, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

The MAIN issue with these consists, both past and present is that not only do they tend to be irrellevant, but they are ALSO unsourced, AND ALMOST ENTIRELY INCORRECT! (Irrellevant, Unsourced, and Incorrect!! How many reasons can there be for deletion?) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 157.252.162.226 (talk) 22:02, 24 January 2008 (UTC)