Talk:Lake Saint Clair (North America)

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I just wanted to point out that I think it's pretty silly that this article is at Lake Saint Clair, North America. This article should be at Lake Saint Clair or Lake St. Clair given that (a) this lake crosses an international border (making it a significant lake), (b) the other Lake Saint Clairs don't even have their own articles yet, (c) this lake is part of the Great Lakes system, which makes it significant (you wouldn't put Lake Geneva at Lake Geneva, Europe or Lake Geneva, France and Switzerland), even though there is a Lake Geneva, Wisconsin and a Lake Geneva, Florida). Darkcore 09:16, 2 Apr 2004 (UTC)

I disagree. Lake Saint Clair requires a qualifier as it is not the only Lake Saint Clair in North America. It should be moved and renamed as Lake Saint Clair (Michigan-Ontario) similar to Pigeon River (Minnesota-Ontario) which also acts as the international border between Canada and the United States. That fact that it is part of the Great Lakes of North America is not a strong argument.--BrentS 16:07, 4 Jan 2005 (UTC)

BrentS's argument seems pretty convincing to me. I would also note that I have never seen "Saint" spelled out, so I vote for Lake St. Clair (Michigan-Ontario). —Rodii 8 July 2005 21:29 (UTC)
I agree with Rodii, I live on the lake and no one spells out Saint. It should be titled as Lake St. Clair(e). I live in Stoney Point so it is predominantly french speaking, hence the 'e'. The-Rob 00:14, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
I agree with Darkcore; this is an international lake. This fact alone qualifies it for (North America). All other lakes by this name can take a more precise local name such as country/state/province or other region qualifier. Being part of the Great Lakes I think is a strong argument due to the basin's uniqueness. In fact, I would be of mind to recommend that Pigeon River be renamed to (North America), unless there are any other Pigeon Rivers on the border between say New Brunswick and Maine. The other alternative would be to use (Canada-USA) for both articles.Em3rald 19:52, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
Lake Saint Clair, North America doesn't cut it for me - it seems to be applicable to the other Lake St.Clairs just as much as this one. I agree that the title needs a modifier, so I would support Lake St. Clair (Michigan-Ontario)PKT 01:34, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Grosse Pointes

The Grosse Pointes are eastern suburbs of Detroit, not northern ones. They are due east of the city. Also, they cover only about a quarter of the Michigan shore of the lake--the rest lies in Macomb and St. Clair counties. Before I edited it, the article gave the impression that the entire Michigan side was closed off to the public, which is entirely false--there are multiple public beaches, most notably Metro Beach.

[edit] Reference given maybe wrong

The reference given [1] maybe incorrect or at least have a typo and thereby be unrelieable. It says the lake is in Minnesota. It may need to be removed. --MJCdetroit 03:10, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Fixed. It was linking to the wrong lake. It should link to the right one, now. --Elliskev 21:06, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bad References / Merge? / Lake Michigan-Huron?

References [2] and [3] given in the article require passworded accounts to look at them. I do not know all Wikipedia's rules, but it seems to me it ain't much of a reference if you can't look at it. Perhaps they should be updated or removed as references. I do not know how to do this.

Perhaps the discussion of St. Clair's status as a "Great Lake" should be moved into that article, where there is no mention of it? Since the lake (only) covers 1,270 sq km it doesn't fit the top twenty, but it is certainly a "great" lake if you have stood on the shore and looked at it.

One thing that tweaked my nose on the Great Lakes article is that some geologists have proposed calling Michigan and Huron one lake, "Lake Michigan-Huron," because they are "hydrologically connected."

I cannot find a definition for that mouthful of academic double-talk: I found thirty thousand different definitions for it on AltaVista alone for "hydrologically connected." Two massive lakes connected only by the small Straits of Mackinac don't seem to my uneducated little pinhead as "Hydrologically connected."

Moreover, -being- from Michigan, I have never heard anyone from Michigan, Indiana, Illinois, Wisconsin, or Ontario refer to them as "Lake Michigan-Huron." Who gets to name features? Academics, or the people who live there?

-J. Kulacz 96.18.50.143 (talk) 22:53, 29 April 2008 (UTC)