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[edit] "Trivia" from IMDb Entry

"His brother, Ben Shabalala, who was part of South Africa's most famous Acappella ensemble for many years, was shot to death in Durban, South Africa on June 16, 2004. Lady Black Mambazo fuses Zulu and gospel music. The group won a Grammy award for best album in 1986." -- IMDb: Joseph Shabalala

-- Crnk Mnky 15:04, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Tour dates

Do we really need the tour dates for the 2006 tour in this article? This is not Wikinews? Elf-friend 06:35, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

I thought the same as you and looked all around to try to find some guidelines about posting such events; didn't really find anything that seemed to address tour dates though. Maybe I just missed them. I agree that this should not be a place to post tour dates, but as long as they're not explicitly against wikipolicy, I think maybe we should let the poster of them know, rather than just deleting them... what do you think? --Romarin 14:31, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
I posted the dates; maybe I was wrong to, if it is indeed against wikipolicy then maybe a link to the group's tour page in "See Also" would be an idea? --LBM 00:35, 5 April 2006 (GMT)
I think that's a great idea. Like I said, I didn't find anything explicitly saying posting tour dates is against wikipolicy, but that seems to be the general idea from what I gather looking around. Basically, it borders on adversizing, which is against wikipolicy. But an external link (under "external links", not "see also"; this is for other wiki pages) to their website and tour dates would be much better, I agree. Thanks for being understanding. --Romarin 23:51, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
I second Romarin as I do not think that a user reading this article a couple of years from now would be interested in their 2006 tour dates. I also don't see tour dates in other artist's articles. Thanks for being understanding from me as well. Elf-friend 07:01, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
Well, the idea was to delete past schedules as the tours develop, but seeing as this may be against the policy, the dates will be removed. LBM 18:02, 5 April 2006 (GMT)
Thanks! --Romarin 20:08, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ladysmith Black Mambazo in Outer Space

Someone needs to research this and add it to the article, it was part of a saturday night live sketch about failed cartoon shows. It sounded like they recoded some of the audio for the sketch themselves, but i have been unable to track down any information concerning the sketch. in any event, it should definately be mentioned in the article.--69.218.198.216 04:57, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

It's not that noteworthy to put in the article. In a discussion I had with their manager recently it seems the group itself did not record any of the vocals for the cartoon. LBM 22:28, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] GA nomination

I came very close to nominating this page as a GA, but there are few things that need to be corrected first:

  • The reference section needs to be bulleted
  • In context, this sentence:

They were so good that they were eventually forbidden to enter isicathamiya competitions but were welcomed to entertain at them.

sounds like the "they" is referring to Shabalala's harmonies, instead of the band (which is what I believe "they" refers to). That needs to be made more clear. Also, the previous sentence jumps to the sentence above without any chronological connection. That's like saying "John Mayer wanted to be a musician since he was thirteen. He wore a black tux when he got his first Grammy" It jumps so far into the future it is a little jarring.

  • Since most of the English speaking world (or at least english Wikipedia's readership) is unfamiliar with the term isicathamiya, there should probably be a brief explanation of what that is - one sentence is good enough.
  • There is some overlinking in the article: isicathamiya is linked more than once, and so are various years, etc...
  • Also, you might consider turning some of those inline urls into proper inline citations. See WP:IC.

Other than these points, I think you have a strong article. It is almost there.--Esprit15d 17:28, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

I have made the appropriate changes to the article. --LBM | TALK TO ME 00:11, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
I've GA'd it. Congrats. -- Zanimum 20:05, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Paul Simon did what?

"On December 10, 1991, Shabalala's brother and one of the bass members in the group, Headman Shabalala, was shot and killed by Sean Nicholas, a white off-duty security guard.His death was considered a racial killing by Paul Simon, who led the court proceedings against Nicholas."

I don't understand what the above quote means. In what sense did Simon "lead the court proceedings against Nicholas"? Was he there when Shabalala was killed? Did he finance the defense? Clarification would be appreciated. 68.7.201.42 07:32, 21 October 2007 (UTC)