Talk:Lady Helen Taylor
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[edit] Children
A recent Articles for deletion discussion established that her youngest daughter, Estella Taylor, was not sufficiently notable and should be replaced with a redirect to her mother, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Estella Taylor. Presumably the same arguments apply to her 3 older children. Unless anyone objects I propose to replace them with redirects to her mother as well. This is part of a wider discussion about where the threshhold of notability lies in relation to distant relatives of royalty, further contributions would be welcome. PatGallacher 20:42, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Melons
Would it be impolite to note in the article that because of her, er, statuesque-ness, Lady Helen's nickname among her close friends when she was a teenager was "Melons"? --Michael K. Smith 05:36, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
- I searched and found photos of her and I cannot understand the nickname! Q43 (talk) 05:05, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Relatives
Her father is a first cousin of Queen Elizabeth II. This means that Helen Taylor is a second cousin of the Queen's children. With the Queen they are first cousins once removed or more specifically, the Queen is her second aunt. One is a (first) uncle/aunt to their siblings (zeroth cousins) children, second uncle/aunt (first cousin once removed) to their cousins children, third uncle/aunt (second cousin once removed) to their second cousins children and so on. Q43 (talk) 04:16, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Terms such as "second niece" and second aunt" are very rarely used and appear to be specific to the vocabulary of genealogical research. I think "first cousin once removed" is more than adequate. for an article to be read by a general audience.68.72.89.4 (talk) 20:26, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
- They are adequate in this case because the Queen is a public person and we know that she is the one that is one generation older! Q43 (talk) 03:53, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Post-merge succession box
Well, the Taylor children's articles were just unmerged "because it broke the succession box". So, here's a solution that doesn't:
| Preceded by Lady Amelia Windsor |
Line of succession to the British throne Lady Helen, Columbus, Cassius, Eloise & Estella Taylor |
Succeeded by Lord Frederick Windsor |
and Lord Frederick's will say Preceded by Estella Taylor (which links to her mother). I suggest we utilise this or a similar solution in the future mergings of not-notables in the line. † DBD 11:44, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
