Talk:Lady Diana Cooper

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As Lady Diana Cooper chose to be known by that name most of her life, even after officially becoming "Lady Norwich", and the Google hits are roughly three times as many for that name than her maiden name of "Lady Diana Manners", I think this article should be moved to Lady Diana Cooper ~ Kalki 20:41, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

I agree; however, I disagree with putting her entire LEGAL title in the opening of the article. Wiki has not done this with other entries who wish to be known by other titles, ie the Duchess of Cornwall, who is nonetheless legally Princess of Wales. I realize that Lady Diana Cooper chose a style which was without precedent, ie she was legally Lady Norwich, but it is how she is/was best known and which title she preferred.Mowens35 14:22, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

The Duchess of Cornwall is an exceptional case; she is never, ever known as Princess of Wales, though she does hold that title. The rules on Wikipedia also are more fluid for actual royalty than they are for ordinary peers like Lady Diana. Another example of this bending the rules for royalty is Princess Alice, Duchess of Gloucester, who was never a princess in her own right but was still styled as though she was, with the Queen's permission. Because of the unique, and not altogether legal, things modern monarchs tend to do with styles, there is some leniency when it comes to actual royalty (i.e., people styled HRH). But naming conventions for peers are quite clear at Wikipedia:WikiProject Peerage: regardless of the article's title, the lead should show the full name, though it is preferable to clarify if it is rarely used, as we have done for Lady Diana. The first example of this that comes to mind is the British politician Michael Ancram, who also uses a title to which he has no legal right. Just like Lady Diana, his article is still located at the name he uses, but the lead shows his full title. You will be hard-pressed to find a non-royal example of a lead that does not reflect these standards. TysK 19:49, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Your high dudgeon amuses me. Mowens35 19:56, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

FYI Her son's divorce from Anne Clifford may have taken place in 1985, but when did it become final, legally? Usually it takes some time for the final decree. Can you find this out? Might help with title problems re Diana.Mowens35 23:55, 7 November 2006 (UTC)