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[edit] Welcome!

Hello, Labcoat, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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[edit] Neil Forrester pic

Actually I found that pic on a distinct Neil Forrester article. I thought it ought to go into the main article. I have particular issues with the secondary article in fact - Talk:Neil Forrester contains the gruesome story :-) If you know anything about him that suggests he is actually notable in his own right (the article asserts he is notable only for his appearance in the TV show) your feedback there would be urgently appreciated! TheGrappler 11:58, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi there Grappler

Thanks for the reply.

Wow. That seems like a lot of grief for such a relatively minor 'personality'. I don't know much about Forrester in 2006, but I did obsessively watch the tv series when it was on in 1995 (and still watch my old recordings of it now, to my shame) - hence my major re-edit of that article over the past couple of months. His 'Shardcore' wesbite details his current art-related activities, but I doubt if they would warrant any detailed comment on his individual profile here. I can't quite follow the nature of that exchange you were involved in on the discussion page. Are you looking to build up the page in order to justify it (or the opposite)? How do you come to know him?

--Labcoat 13:14, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

I don't mind too much what happens to be honest; I found the individual article when I was doing "random page patrol". It's pretty clearly a piece of Wikipedia:Content forking from the Real Life article, but that's fine so long as there's more to be said in the spin-off article than in the article it was spun off from. What worried me is that the article was clearly in violation of the living person biography guidelines (WP:LIVING), which are taken pretty seriously for obvious reasons! Part of that is that in the case of somebody only notable for an event in the past, and especially if they've made some effort to become a private citizen (e.g. shutting down their website) then Wikipedia isn't the place to include the results of "googlestalking" them. (It's irrelevant to an encyclopedia and in 10 years time who is going to update it?) Being a university research assistant is definitely not notable, and he there's no evidence to suggest he is a noteworthy artist (the article certainly didn't assert any notability, it just mentioned that, like very many people, he posts his art online). Once that kind of detail gets stripped out then the page becomes shorter than the subsection of the Real Life article it was spun off from, which is silly. WP:DEL specifically says these kinds of article should be merged back into the main article and turned into a redirect, but the only thing I could see that should be put back into the Real Life article was the photo. My change was reverted by somebody obviously quite ticked off about it, but the article reverted to still was an obvious breach of the WP:LIVING guidelines. I added on Category:Living people (which is vital for articles about living people so they can be monitored more scrupulously) but still have concerns about some of the content. Since you seemed to be more aware of him than I am, you did seem a good person to ask about whether the artistic thing is in any way notable, otherwise it's a bit akin to saying "10 years after he ceased to be famous, one of his hobbies is art" which is at least a little dodgy! TheGrappler 10:33, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What?

I thought you like reading and replying to people's comments? And I think you're trying to catch me vandalising by you wanting me to repeatedly put the same text again and again, but that's not going to happen!

-anonymous

Keep deleting and good luck!

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[edit] Ellen MacArthur (Criticism paragraph)

Please see discussion page re Ellen MacArthur. Would appreciate your comments. Thanks Boatman 07:46, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

I added some more constructive comments today. All that we need as an end result is a balanced article. Appreciate your review and comments. Thanks, Boatman 13:32, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Hi Labcoat, Sorry you felt that you were being shouted down and receiving swipes. Big appologies from me if any of my input came across in that way, it was certainly not intended to be read in that way and I am sure the same goes for the other contributors. Assuming the other contributors agree with your recommendation then your active participation in the debate has resulted in a well balanced article appropriate for a factual encyclopedia. Thanks for your help Boatman (talk) 09:01, 18 November 2007 (UTC)