Talk:Labaya
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Labaya was a good article, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these are addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake. Delisted version: August 9, 2006 |
The example of the "Amarna letter", I don't think reaches, even minimum standards. (Very, tough work if you were to work on it !)
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[edit] Delisted GA
This article did not go through the current GA nomination process. Looking at the article as is, it fails on criteria 2b of the GA quality standards. Although references are provided, the citation of sources is essential for verifiability. Most Good Articles use inline citations. I would recommend that this be fixed, to reexamine the article against the GA quality standards, and to submit the article through the nomination process. --RelHistBuff 13:20, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
- Sheesh. The above is an example why I don't participate in the Good Article project. -- llywrch 05:55, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Pre-Israelites in Canaan in regard to
"One possible interpretation of his name is "Lion of YHWH", which raises some tantalizing questions about the presence of YHWH-cults in pre-Israelite Canaan."
At least according to the Tanakh, Abraham lived in Canaan for around 100 years. His son Issac lived in Canaan, and his son Jacob (Israel) lived in Canaan. It wasn't - again, according to Biblical accounts - until Joseph reconciled with his brothers, and moved his family to Egypt that the "Israelites" left Canaan in the first place.
So while the Hebrew Bible may be considered an inaccurate historical piece to many, it *does* write that - starting with Abraham for 100 years - four generations lived in Canaan, up to the move to Egypt (the fourth generation), and later the Exodus out of Egypt and back to Canaan. So evidence, or even the concept of pre-Exodus worship of YHWH shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone.
- Actually, some of Joseph's brothers had grandchildren before moving to Egypt, so that brings it up to six generations. From the time of Abraham's entry until Jacob moved his family to Egypt was a bit over 200 years, not 100. ~ MD Otley (talk) 22:47, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] "Pre-Israelite"?
Just what is meant by "Pre-Israelite"? Before the invasion under Joshua? Before the United Kingdom period?
The traditional date for the Exodus is about 1450BC, putting Joshua just before 1400BC. If Labaya was in the 1300's BC, then he was Pre-Israelite only under the second definition. If he were contemporary with the 18th dynasty, then he would not be Pre-Israelite at all!
This article definitely needs some work. I wish I had the background to do justice to it. Mdotley 21:51, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Re: Pre Israelites in canaan...
No it shouldn't. And the God Ya, or Yahu was worshiped by the southern Shasu as early as 1450 BC. The ancient tribe of Israel was Canaanite, culturally speaking--As the majority of the Bronze age Canaanites were descendants of N. Eastern peoples, the Amorites and Hurrians, with a minority Shasu population from the Southern deserts. --71.222.54.25 23:39, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
