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I have tired to improve this article as has been suggested. I changed the intro and added some history. I think there is still room for further improvements. Some of the info tables are too long and hard on the eyes. I think La Liga de Fútbol Profesional would be a more correct title. However there are some language fascists who object to using Spanish titles. I can't understand why when the article is connected to Spain. Djln--Djln 21:58, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

1) Please WP:AGF, also, it is convention that forgein languages are not used on the english wikipedia, except for nouns, since they are not really expected, but you are welcome to use such a page structure on the spanish wikipedia. Should you want the article moving, it will need to be moved by an admin (cut and paste moves violate GFDL), and all double redirects corrected. Ian¹³_ID:540053 22:04, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

I still don't understand why Spanish and or/other language names cannot be used as titles, especially when they are in common usage by English speakers and particularly when they are better known by these names even to English speakers. There are already numerous articles with Spanish language titles. Why is there an objection to this one. English is my first language but I still think these titles are more accurate. This applies particularly to articles on sports, e.g Copa del Rey, Copa del Rey de Baloncesto, Copa Libertadores, but I'm sure its relevent in other areas as well.Djln--Djln 22:45, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Yes, but they are as I have already mentioned nouns. La Liga is okay, or Spanish football league - however using a spanish name in the english Wikipedia for articles where english is accurate (ie. not a noun) just makes the harder to find and scearch for. Ian¹³_ID:540053 16:57, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

yeh i agree, la liga as the title is fine, everyone in english calls it that

Contents 1 Laudrup in 1990s 2 Laudrup 3 List of football clubs in Spain 4 New Season 06/07 5 Cleanup needed 6 "Primera Liga" 7 Notable former star players 8 Rules 9 list of la liga transfers for season 2007 2008 10 Giovanni dos Santos 11 Top scorer 12 Johan Cruijff

[edit] Laudrup in 1990s

I've reinstated the Laudrup mention - there are numerous player mentions throughout the section (and article), then there's place for him too. After being voted 12th best Real Madrid player through 100 years, he certainly made an impact that year. Poulsen 23:50, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Laudrup

Laudrup was never elected European Footballer of the Year. Removed name from sentence.Djln--Djln 22:36, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of football clubs in Spain

I have transferred table with current La Liga clubs to above article. I think it is better placed there rather on this page. Djln --Djln 20:49, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New Season 06/07

Anybody know ehen the new season start --Jaysscholar 16:18, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup needed

The article is a mess at the moment, and needs cleaning up. The lists of players are completely unnecessary. Having a separate subsection for every paragraph disrupts any notion of flow. The list of winners should be broken out into a separate article like Swedish football champions. Oldelpaso 20:24, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

• This is one of the top leagues in the world, I believe a list of past and present players is more then appropriate. A list had already developed in paragraph form and it was just becoming longer and longer, at least this way it does not look cluttered. How can you have an article about La Liga without including a list of players and past winners ? However I think an article about La Liga Clubs in Europe might be a good idea and improve the flow. Too many articles have no subheadings at all and this makes them unreadable. At least this way readers can find what they are looking for with ease. Djln--Djln 22:34, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Primera Liga"

The term Primera Liga is not used in Spain, it is known as Primera División (note the paralelism with lower leagues). IMHO (please, point me to any WP conventions/rules this might break) using the form Primera División instead and adding a note regarding the Primera Liga usage in other countries/languages. --Outlyer 15:36, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

I completely agree. The opening paragraph is carelessly worded. The comparison is made between La Liga ie the entire Spanish Football League and the Italian Serie A and the English Premier League (sic)when in effect the comparison should either be between La Liga, the Italian Lega Nazionale Professionisti and the English Football League OR between the Spanish Primera Division, the Italian Serie A and the English Premier Division. Admittedly, this failing is common amongst so-called football journalists.212.72.24.106 06:00, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Notable former star players

• Beckham shouldn't be on the list as he still plays in the league. Maybe instead Figo and Ronaldo should be there? Drogo 21:55, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

• Figo and Ronaldo are already mentioned in section for award winners. That is why this list is called Other Notable.... Djln --Djln 14:10, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rules

Rules of league need to be added, e.g. 3 points for a win, order determined by goals scored/ head to head record. Also disiplinary rules, 5 bookings = 1 game etc. I am not sure of these, so won't edit, but if anyone has a reliable source it would add to the page.

[edit] list of la liga transfers for season 2007 2008

i suggest that we should start working on this article for the new season

[edit] Giovanni dos Santos

Removed from the Notable Current Stars list, I have no idea how he can be regarded as one when he's yet to even make an appearance in La Liga.Mr Cool 17:36, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

I agree with Mr Cool on this point. Not only that, but Jonathan Dos Santos? He hasn't ever been near the Barcelona first team, so how can he be a notable player? Does anyone believe that I shouldn't now delete those players who have never played in the league? Isaiah 18:18, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Top scorer

Who is current top-scorer in history of La Liga? and, how many goals he score? G.nguyenquang 20:05, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

I believe it's Telmo Zarraonaendia, although here in Spain he's just known as "Zarra". He played for Athletic Bilbao and scored 251 goals in 277 matches. He also scored a very famous goal against England at the 1950 World Cup, which qualified Spain for the final group stage and remains the best ever performance of Spain in a World Cup (4th place). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.136.232.49 (talk) 01:34, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Johan Cruijff

Why isn't Johan Cruijff listed under Former Star Players. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.112.69.127 (talk) 23:06, 2 February 2008 (UTC)