Talk:L. S. Lowry
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[edit] "Marionette" works
The introduction makes passing reference to these but never expands in the article. I'm very vaguely aware of them having been discovered but if they are alluded to so early they should be explained a little more in some way.
Rrose Selavy 14:28, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Status Quo song
On http://www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=7820 it says that 'Pictures of Matchstick Men' was inspired by the artist's work. Baz
[edit] Fact tags and NPOV
Added some fact tags, mostly to editorial comments about the artist's relationship with his mother. Anchoress 16:44, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
- Fixed.—Theo (Talk) 12:47, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
- I'm not sure if I agree. I question the neutrality, the necessity, and the encyclopedic nature of the following:
- She is reported to have been gifted and respected. She was an irritable, nervous woman who had been brought up to expect high standards by her stern father. Like him she was controlling and intolerant of failure. She used illness as a means of securing the attention and obedience of her mild and affectionate husband and she dominated her son in the same way.
- I think personally the only way such personal and pejorative comments can be included is if they are a) proven to contribute materially to Lowry's article, and b) expressed as the opinion of someone who knew her. If there's a letter or a journal that says those things, then OK, if we can cite it. But even if it's in a bio of Lowry, it's still too POV IMO. Anchoress 13:53, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
- I'm not sure if I agree. I question the neutrality, the necessity, and the encyclopedic nature of the following:
- From memory, this paraphrases the report of his biographer Shelley Rohde. It is consistent with my own conversations with people who knew Lowry's mother. These conversations are not acceptable sources for Wikipedia but they make me willing to accept the apparently subjective comments in the published biographies. I recognise that these people may well have been the sources used by Rohde and others so the argument could be circular. —Theo (Talk) 21:57, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
- Yeah, I guess I have a problem with this. Even if it were an article about her, it would be too POV for inclusion unless it were an actual quote. As in, 'In a letter to his friend, Lowry said: "My mother is controlling and intolerant of failure, and uses illness to gain attention and dominate."' Since the article isn't even about her, and it's really an interpretation of her character (even if it's true), I don't see how it can be included. It would (IMO) have to a) be directly attributable to someone who knew her as a citable quote, and b) be shown to constitute a material contribution to the Lowry article. Just my $.02 Anchoress 21:47, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] dwelling.jpg copyright
The copyright-free status of this image should be re-checked. If it's a photograph purportedly taken before 1923, and the painting was done in 1927, there is an obvious conflict.
[edit] Image:L.S. Lowry.jpg
We have a problem with this. It uses the {{Non-free book cover}} template, which means that: 1) any article that uses it must do so to reference the book specifically, not the book's subject in general; and 2) there must be a detailed fair-use rationale, which is not there. Either or both of these are potential grounds for deletion of the image, so this needs sorting out quickly. 81.158.2.204 02:51, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
Birthplace: —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.75.116.165 (talk) 15:37, 1 October 2007 (UTC) Lowry was born in Old Trafford not Stretford. Go and check the blue plaque on Old Trafford library, Shrewsbury Street. Barratt Street was a couple of streets away from this site. Now there is a sports field on the site. MBP
[edit] "Marionette" works (again)
As a previous editor mentioned, it's unsatisfactory just to make passing reference and then not explain at all - a single external link at the bottom is not enough. Please add some context. 86.132.142.246 (talk) 22:40, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Stretford
Just a note that Stretford is not, nor has ever been a part of the City of Manchester. It is close to Manchester, part of the Manchester post town, and now part of Greater Manchester, but it is not within Manchester's statutory boundaries. At the time of Lowry's birth Stretford, Salford, Swinton and Pendlebury were all in Lancashire. Therefore, Lowry was born in "Stretford, Lancashire". Hope that helps! -- Jza84 · (talk) 01:00, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
