Talk:Lúthien

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[edit] Morning and Evenstar

I got a bit confused over this point where it said Lúthien was considered the Morningstar of the Elves. Wasn't Galadriel also titled in such a way? I have a faint memory that when Gimli and the Fellowship was in Minas Tirith, he and I think some lord, were discussing whether Galadriel or Arwen was the fairest. Gimli then said as his final words (roughly anyway): "You have chosen the evening, but my heart prefers the Morning. A Morning I fear soon shall pass" (roughly translated).

Hi,

Galadriel was credited with this title by Gimli, but Lúthien also was six thousand years prior to this. At the time Galadriel was called "morning star" Lúthien had been dead for many years. But the title was originally given to her. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Norran (talk • contribs) 20:21, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lúthien and Arwen Evenstar

"It is mirrored by the later romance between Aragorn and Arwen Evenstar". Arwen is half-elven, Lúthien is pure elven. That's not exactly the same. Moreover, Aragorn is descended from Elros, who is originally half-elven until he chose to be mankind, so Aragorn has at least a bit of elven qualities within him. Aran|heru|nar 11:58, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

They didn't mean it like that, more like that Aragorns and Arwens fates were similiar to that of Beren and Lúthien (two elves who both chose a mortal life for two Men they loved).--- Hackeru

[edit] 43 664 Years old?

How can Luthien be 43 664 years when she first met Beren, when Cirdan, who woke up at Cuivenen before Elwë met Melian, is 15 000 (or 36 000) years old at the time of the War of the Ring??

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I answered this question here. --FlamingSilmaril 01:54, 22 December 2007 (UTC)