Talk:Kyrgyz language

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Kyrgyz language is part of the WikiProject Afghanistan, a project to maintain and expand Afghanistan-related subjects on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, you can edit the article attached to this page, or visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion.
??? This article has not yet received a rating on the quality scale.
??? This article has not yet received a rating on the importance scale.
WikiProject Central Asia Kyrgyz language is part of WikiProject Central Asia, a project to improve all Central Asia-related articles. This includes but is not limited to Afghanistan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Mongolia, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Xinjiang, Tibet and Central Asian portions of Iran and Russia, region-specific topics, and anything else related to Central Asia. If you would like to help improve this and other Central Asia-related articles, please join the project. All interested editors are welcome.
Start This article has been rated as start-Class on the Project's quality scale.
High This article has been rated as high-importance on the Project's importance scale.
After rating the article, please provide a short summary on the article's ratings summary page to explain your ratings and/or identify the strengths and weaknesses.
This article is within the scope of the WikiProject Languages, an attempt at creating a standardized, informative, and easy-to-use resource about languages. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks.
language Portal
??? This article has not yet received a rating on the quality scale.

I reverted the changes by 129.16.117.113, who had earlier:

  • Deleted the romanization of the native name and changed it to Cyrillic, when the Cyrillic already appeared right next to the romanization (i.e. Кыргыз тили (Кыргыз тили)) instead of (Кыргыз тили (Kirgiz tili))
  • Changed number of speakers from 3 to 7 million without citation
  • Changed "Kirghiz" to "KIRGIZ" (in all caps) for no obvious reason
  • Changed interlanguage link Киргизский язык (Russian) to non-existent
  • Changed interlanguage link Кыргыз Тили (Kyrgyz) to Кыргызча, which is just a redirect to Кыргыз Тили in the first place

Also, User:Amgine, I reverted your change of the native name. Now it's back to Кыргыз тили --- I freely admit my Kyrgyz is not good enough to make an independent judgment on this, but IMHO it's best to go with what the Kyrgyz Wiki itself calls the Kyrgyz language, namely Кыргыз тили. cab 01:51, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kazakh & Kyrgyz related

The assertion that Kyrgyz is most closely related to Kazakh is debateable. It seems that the similarties between the two are artificial and have more to do with language contact than any genetic relationship. Kyrgyz seems most closely related to Altay & Kazakh to Karakalpak. Straughn 04:38, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

This is most certainly the case—Kyrgyz and Altay share innovation that other Turkic languages lack, and Kazakh, Karakaklpak, and Nogay share innovation that e.g. Kyrgyz and Altay lack. Does something need to be changed? —Firespeaker (talk) 08:32, 12 December 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Pre-historic roots

I think the section on prehistoric roots really doesn't belong here in its current form. Best would probably be a summary of the halpotype stuff ("the Kyrgyz genetically show quite a high relative concentration of the R1a1 halpotype (63%), which has been linked to proto-IE speakers. This is curious, since Kyrgyz is a Turkic language." etc). The current stuff is rambly and much of it is unnecessary. I'm going to propose a merger, to take some of the material out of this section and put it in the Halpogroup article. —Firespeaker (talk) 08:39, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Arabic script for Kyrgyz

The current Arabic script for Kyrgyz tili is incorrect (قىرعىز ٴتىلى).

There is no need for an apostrophe; the character [غ] should be used for [ɣ],instead of [ع]. I can't remember if [ɨ] is represented with the character high-hamza yeh [ٸ], or if it follows the Uyghur convention of using the dotless-yeh (alef maqsura) [ى]:

قٸرغٸز تيلي
قىرغىز تيلي
Pachooey (talk) 20:44, 9 April 2008 (UTC)