Talk:KVLY-TV mast

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At $3 a foot you cant afford many climbs on this baby.

• Actually it's something more like $250 a foot, seeing at it cost somewhere over $500k. --Alexwcovington 07:05, 28 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Why?

Anyone got any ideas about why the government banned taller buildings?

All larger North Dakota cities (grand forks, gargo, bismarck) have a limit on the height of buildings due to strong winds associated with the area.

This is not true, and is also irrelevant- the FAA inacted the hight limit, which means it has to do with aviation. -JWGreen 00:44, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

I would imagine it's because anything that tall becomes a hazard to navigation. Prior to aircraft takeoff all obstructions must be cleared. Numerous 2,000 foot obstructions would be obstacles to most civil and some military aviation.

I do not believe that 2,063 ft was the original height of KVLY's tower. I believe that some time after it was erected, a helicopter hit a guy wire and the tower fell and had to be replaced. I do not remember details, but I think they shouldn't be hard to track down.

sandiandray@msn.com

A helicopter did not hit this tower, it hit the nearby KXJB tower. The tower's original hight is 2,063. It has not been replaced.-JWGreen 00:44, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

the coordinates given in the article are for Grand Forks, ND... not the tower location... -JWGreen 05:58, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Why doesn't anybody go the extra 577 feet and make it a full half-mile in the sky? That's a lot of climbing to replace a lightbulb though. BirdValiant 23:53, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

The FAA doesn't allow towers higher than 2,063 ft- however that rule was enacted after the tower was erected. -JWGreen 04:20, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Something wrong with pricing on the page... 500k is not 3.2 million in the past.

I work in the telecom industry and am very familiar with the rules for antenna structures. In looking at the current rules you will find that there is no basis for this 2063ft reference. Title 14(FAA Regulations) subpart A section 77.3, Subpart B section 77.13 and Subpart C section 77.23 of the Code of Federal Regulations, which are the sections dealing with "Obstructions", says nothing about an absolute height limit. There are only limits on height based on calculations that take into consideration distance to the surrounding runways and air fields. However, Title 47(FCC Regulations) part 17 does not allow antenna structures taller than 1000ft without FAA approval and any stucture taller than 200ft does have to be registered with the FAA. I thinks this part of the article should be removed as there is no proof to it. Alfordap (talk) 21:53, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

http://www.fcc.gov/mb/policy/dtv/lighting.html states "Although there is no absolute height limit for antenna towers, both agencies have established a rebuttable presumption against structures over 2,000 feet above ground level." It then goes on to give a brief summary on what it would take each agency (FCC and FAA) to approve a taller structure in "exceptional cases". vmz (talk) 23:35, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Position in Google Maps?

Can somebody include the coordinates of the KVLY? It would make easier to locate it in Google maps. Thanks.

Just added the coordinate template, should help everyone. --Bobak 18:41, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tallest structure

I removed the statement added by an IP user that the tower hight had been surpassed by Burj Dubai as of yesturday, as the official website for the tower still lists its hight at 604.9 meters^[1]. -JWGreen (talk) 19:14, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Well, the official website now lists it as 629 metres and it hasn't been updated in almost two months. It is now taller than the KVLY-TV Mast. 24.226.77.23 (talk) 13:29, 31 May 2008 (UTC)