User talk:Kuzhinapurath

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[edit] Your new edits

Hello there, I can see that you are honestly trying to write articles here but I'm afraid you are not conforming to the usual procedures and style for article. I suggest you have a look at the blue links I provide here, as well as perhaps the tutorial here.

If your pages are deleted, you might like to have a look at this page which may suggest why. One of the most frequent reasons for deletion is that a subject fails to meet these criteria for notability. Alternatively, a notable subject may just not be properly verified with in-line citations. There are some really helpful suggestions about drafting, improving and perfecting articles at the blue links shown. If you need help with getting an article drafted, and want to stop it being deleted, click on the bit after my signature that says (talk) Kim Dent-Brown ^(Talk) 12:10, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of Fr. Thomas Kuzhinapurath

I have nominated Fr. Thomas Kuzhinapurath, an article you created, for deletion. I do not feel that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fr. Thomas Kuzhinapurath. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Kim Dent-Brown ^(Talk) 12:52, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Help in citing sources

Hello there, just wanted to reiterate that I'd like to be helpful and I have not tagged your articles for deletion out of spite! You are clearly trying to make a good contribution here, but might I suggest that you take some time first to learn how Wikipedia works? The tutorial is very helpful, and you might also like to look here to learn about citing sources. A useful tip there on how to write references reads:

The connection between the relevant text and its footnote is indicated by a number or symbol which appears both after the relevant text and before the footnote.

1. Place a <ref> ... </ref> where you want a footnote reference number to appear in an article—type the text of the note between the ref tags.
2. Place {{reflist}} or <references/> in an otherwise empty "Notes" or "References" section near the end of the article—the list of notes will be automatically generated here. If you want to create columns of notes, write {{reflist|2}}.

[edit] Suggestion for your external links

Hello again, you have a number of links on the articles you are editing which are just plain numbers in brackets like this [1]. Readers might find it easier to browse these if you type (for this example) [http://www.google.co.uk Google, the search engine] which will appear in your text like this: Google, the search engine. You might also want to put your external links under a header. Typing a new header like this:

==External links==

above your links list will give it a well-formatted header. I could do this myself for your articles (and I will if you ask me) but it's probably best to learn how to do this yourself. I won't bother you with any more advice for now, as I'm not sure whether you are reading it or finding it helpful since you have not replied here yet. Kim Dent-Brown ^(Talk) 14:50, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi there, it seems you have read the above and you are formatting your external links - well done. I've amended some as they were not displaying properly: there must be a space immediately after the URL within the square brackets. Also, several of the links promise a specific topic, but only lead to a general website where the topic might (or might not) have a page. You really need to link to a precise page - eg a page listing your articles - and not just to the homepage of the website in question. Kim Dent-Brown ^(Talk) 15:21, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Your recent edits

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[edit] St. Mary’s Malankara Major Seminary

Please, help about improving the article.The importance of this school is not disputed,but the manual of style lacks much.There are no wiki links in it, neither categories. The kind of education it provides (for children,for elder etc.), either the educational degrees, provided there are unclear. I am sure that there are a lot of Indians that can add information about that school.

I appreciate your efforts to spread the Glory of the Syro-Malankarian Catholic Church,just You have to add some links to other wikip pages . Go and read Wikipedia:WikiProject Catholicism.

Peace.Drjmarkov (talk) 10:00, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for all the good suggestions and correction. They have greatly contributed to my editjob. Thanks a lot. --202.164.134.254 (talk) 16:55, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] About signing in

Please, excuse me bodering you, but do not forget, please, to sign in with your username every time you want to edit something. Thus all the oder wikipedians will know who is the contributor. Otherwise there appear a lot of numbers and dots - your IP adress and it looks as someone (usualy unfriendly one) has editted your work, even your user page.

Peace.Drjmarkov (talk) 21:23, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] A suggestion for a way forward?

Hello again, I see from your contributions that you have started or made major contributions to the following articles:

• Fr. Thomas Kuzhinapurath
• Syro-Malankara Catholic Church
• Salvific Law
• Aryabharati High School
• St. Joseph's Pontifical Institute , Mangalapuzha, Aluva
• Bhasha Thilakam
• St. Aloysius Seminary, Trivandrum‎
• Daivajanam
• Major Archiepiscopal Church
• Mathavum Chinthayum (now deleted)
• Philip Chempakassery
• St. Mary’s Malankara Major Seminary

Unfortunately almost all of them lack any information which indicate the notability of the subject, and any reference to sources to verify any claims to notability. I'm not saying these places and people are NOT notable - just that you haven't provided any evidence for this. Many of the articles look to an outsider like astroturfing - that is, the creation of articles which refer back to one another in order to give a sense of the importance of the topics. This is not the way to build a good, helpful article. Many of these are stubs of a sentence or two which give no real information and should be merged with one of the main articles - perhaps one of the first two on the list.

I realise this will sound critical and harsh. I don't mean to be; I would like to help you create some useful articles here. My suggestions would be:

1. That you do not create any more articles until those here have been improved to the point where they each describe a notable subject, using valid references to independent sources.
2. That in ceasing to create new articles, you could concentrate on those that are here: improving the depth and quality of one or two articles would be a much better contribution than adding many more linked single-paragraph articles with no references.
3. That some of the stub aticles here have their information merged into the two main articles, with redirects (rather than staying as independent articles).
4. That you start to talk to other editors here and on the talk pages of the articles you have created, so that we can co-operate in building the encyclopedia.
5. That other editors here help you to learn how to contribute to Wikipedia and offer you advice on style issues, article writing, linking, referencing etc... I will be very happy to be one of the people helping you.
6. Please do understand that I regard you as someone trying to be constructive: you are not a vandal and your contribution here is valued. However, there are certain ways of working here which it would be helpful for you to pick up: please accept this offer of help which is offered in a very genuine way.

Best wishes,Kim Dent-Brown ^(Talk) 23:00, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Done so far

1. tried to improve the article Fr. Thomas Kuzhinapurath using valid referances to independent sources by improving depth and quality.
2. tried to concetrate on two articles Syro-Malankara Catholic Church and Fr. Thomas Kuzhinapurath.
3. contributed the major part of the matter for the article Syro-Malankara Catholic Church.
4. a few articles were incorporated into the main ones
5. on the way of collecting materials for the improvement of articles

--omalloor 12:21, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] February 2008

Hi, the recent edit you made to Daivajanam has been reverted, as it appears to be unconstructive. Use the sandbox for testing; if you believe the edit was constructive, ensure that you provide an informative edit summary. You may also wish to read the introduction to editing. Thanks. Majorly (talk) 17:26, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Syro Malankara Catholic

Hello again. I insist you to delete this article - Syro Malankara Catholic, because there is another one Syro-Malankara Catholic Church, which is richer and better.Drjmarkov (talk) 22:16, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Two different Articles

The article Syro-Malankara Catholic Church deals with a different subject matter. But this article is about a notable writer in Malayalam, a language spoken by all people of Kerala including Hindus and Muslims.--omalloor 09:18, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Making progress

Well done, I see you are making progress and thank you for replying here: it does make it easier to work together when we can communicate. I agree that concentrating on the two main articles is a good idea, and think it's very appropriate to consolidate the information from the smaller articles into these two.

Can I just ask a couple of things?

• Are you, User:Kuzhinapurath, in fact the same person who is the subject of the article Fr. Thomas Kuzhinapurath? It would be useful to know, because if you are the same person we need to be aware of the possibility of a conflict of interest in your edits. If you are not Fr. Thomas Kuzhinapurath then I think you may need to change your username to something less confusing!
• When you make an edit to a talk page (like this one) and you are signed in as User:Kuzhinapurath, please end your edit with four tildes like this: ~~~~. This will automatically sign your contribution with your name and the date and time.
• Whether you are logged in or not, please don't sign with other usernames such as omalloor. The fact that it is you is clear by looking at the 'history' tab at the top of each page, but it is confusing if people's talk page edits cannot be immediately identified.

Best wishes with your editing, I will keep a watching brief and offer more help and suggestions as and when I can. Kim Dent-Brown ^(Talk) 22:19, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Comment: May be Fr. Thomas Kuzhinapurath is famous and notable . But I just wanted to say Simon Cheakkanal has very list edits outside this topic [2] and was found to support the artcile on wikiproject talk Christianity , which others may suspect to be a sock puppet user created for this purpose . Besides I understand the author of that article and the subject appear to be one person! http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fr._Thomas_Kuzhinapurath&action=history User:Kuzhinapurath http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&limit=500&target=Kuzhinapurath , which doesnt look good. If the notability is proved better , we will support to keep the article on its AFD discussion - Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fr. Thomas Kuzhinapurath

- Tinucherian (talk) 06:35, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:WikiProject Indian Christianity

Hello, Kuzhinapurath , We have noticed your contributions and interest to the articles related to Indian Christianity. We feel you might also be interested in joining our WikiProject on Indian Christianity Articles on Wikipedia. We welcome you to join this project! Happy Editing! -Drjmarkov (talk) 09:55, 21 February 2008 (UTC) An Useful guide for you :- Main Project Pages WikiProject Indian Christianity Project Page Parent Project Christianity Page How to Join the Project ? Add your name to Active Members Templates for the project The following templates can be used on pages in Wikipedia to associate them with the Indian Christianity WikiProject. Main templates {{Christianityportal}} — Template to add to MAIN pages of all Christianity-related articles {{ChristianityWikiProject|indian-work-group=yes}} : Template to add to TALK pages of all INDIAN Christianity-related articles {{User WikiProject IndianChristianity}} — Userbox for members to advertise our Indian Christainity Wiki project! This user is a member of WikiProject Christianity in India [[Category:Christianity in India]] Category tag to Indian Christainity related articles. {{subst:Welcome2WP-IC}} Invitation to Interested Users. Stub templates {{Christianity-stub}} — Stub template for Christianity-related articles {{Saint-stub}} — Tag to add to saint-related stubs {{Church-stub}} — Tag to add to church building stubs What Should I do ?? These are lots of things you can do to improve the quality of Wikipedia coverage of Indian Christianity and this project Help and contribute to Indian Christanity related Articles Look over the recent changes list for recent improvements to articles, other changes, and vandalism. Attract attention from editors interested in Christianity and Christianity-related topics. Place the WPChristianity banner on the head of Talk Pages of relavent articles. Improve the WPChristianity banner that goes at the head of Talk Pages to handle tags for unreferenced, copyedit needed, cleanup needed, expansion needed, and POV warning. Adopted Topic, where a suite of topically related articles are targeted for improvement until there's a consensus to move on to a new topic. (see here). Article Review, for articles nominated by members for wider review. In this case the new ones go at the top and sink as new ones are added. (see here) Add more reward templates (barnstars), and have people in the task force actually watching logs and rewarding key contributors. Give help on Open tasks Contribute to Portal:Indian Christianity Thank you !

Fr Kuzhinapurath, please go and see that project, I think You can find very interesting articles, authors and everything else about the Christianity in India. Even You can be very helpful there. I have to admit that the Eastern Catholic Churches in India are not my best field of knowledge. It is difficult for me to follow all Your articles, and I really like to help You, because I feel You will become a keen wkipedian contributor. I am afraid not to make a mistake, while editing them. If You want any kind of advice how to organise your articles, You can write directly to me on my talk page User talk:Drjmarkov or to ask for help members of the project. I see you cannot find categories for your articles. Search categories from the category trees in Wikipedia.I added some to your articles, so you can start from that point. The categorisation of an article is the most important part of the work and the advantage of Wikipedia, compared with other databases in the web. When You add a category, all the other people can find your article. The uncategorised articles can be reached only by direct internal links, but it would be occasional. Drjmarkov (talk) 09:55, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

P.S. I am not a priest, but a doctor in dental medicine (dentist). I have special interest of the Catholicism in general since the visit of the late beloved Pope John Paul II in Bulgaria in 2002.Drjmarkov (talk) 19:11, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Help: Dear Fr Kuzhinapurath , as a member and a major contributor to this project , I extend all my help for you in your contributions to the articles on indian christianity. Do ask , if you need any help. - Tinucherian (talk) 10:02, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

I see that you have added yourself to Wikipedia:WikiProject_Indian_Christianity . Welcome on board - Tinucherian (talk) 12:19, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Juvenile delinquency

Hello there, I've reverted the edit you made to this article, inserting an unexplained reference to your own published work. This really is not relevant to the article as this is the English Wikipedia and a Malayalam language reference (even if to the point) is not going to be helpful to English speaking readers. It is also a breach of conflict of interest etiquette in my opinion. If your work is so notable, let others decide so and link to it. Your edits sometimes come very close to what looks like self-advertisement and I would strongly advise you to avoid inserting references to yourself in Wikipedia. Kim Dent-Brown ^(Talk) 21:30, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Signing in

Hello there, I see that you are still being inconsistent in signing in: please log in to this account before you make any edits, otherwise your edits are attributed to the anonymous IP User:202.164.135.26 instead. Then when you are logged in, please sign all your edits to talk pages by adding ~~~~ after your contribution. Please do not add your signature by hand or use another name such as "omalloor" as this makes it appear that your edits are being made by someone else. Kim Dent-Brown ^(Talk) 16:44, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Dnt remove the AFD tag yourself

Please dnt remove the AFD tage yourself. Some Wikipedia Admin will close the AFD discussion and he will then remove the AFD tag .

Btw dnt write your name as omalloor while writing something anywhere. Please login in from your account and then sign by adding ~~~~ ( 4 tildes) to the end . This is VERY IMPORTANT.

- Tinucherian (talk) 05:33, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] dont worry

Do one thing , Log in your this old account , click on 'my preferences' on the top of the page .

in 'User Profile' page , remove everything in the box of 'Signature:' and make sure you have the checkbox of 'Raw signature ' is unchecked. Press 'Save' ...

Now try with four tildes ~~~~ . It should work now...

Thanks Tinucherian (talk) 10:11, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Checking My Preferences

Thanks a lot for the information. I am cheching the renewed preference. By the by you being a member of large pakalomattom family I would like to know more about you. Kuzhinapurath (talk) 10:18, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome to Indian Christianity WikiProject

[edit] Fr. Thomas Kuzhinapurath

Congratulations on your efforts. Fr. Thomas Kuzhinapurath article survived AFD and the decision was to Keep. - Tinucherian (talk) 02:59, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Portal:Indian Christianity Launched

We are happy to announce the launch of Portal:Indian Christianity by Wikipedia:WikiProject Indian Christianity , a work force of Wikipedia:WikiProject Christianity and Wikipedia:WikiProject India. Please share your comments and suggestions. - Tinucherian (talk) 17:14, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Daivajanam

I have responded to your message. You can view the response at: User_talk:Dgf32#Fr._Thomas_Kuzhinapurath. Dgf32 (talk) 14:47, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

I have responded to your message. You can view the response at: User_talk:Dgf32#Fr._Thomas_Kuzhinapurath. Dgf32 (talk) 15:55, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sending e-mail to other users

Fr Kuzhinapurath, if You want to send an e-mail to another user of Wikipedia you can use the special form, which appears, when you click on the e-mail to this user link in the menu on the left side of the user's page. If You want to receive e-mails from other users you must check this option in the Your preferences. Regards Drjmarkov (talk) 16:03, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

If you'd like to email me, just click on the "E-mail this user" link that appears on the left side menu while you a viewing my user page. (User:Dgf32). Thanks. Dgf32 (talk) 17:09, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thank you for catching my "Malayali writers" typo and for changing it on the category page. I've changed the nomination in the speedy rename section as well. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 08:11, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Copyright problems

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[edit] Copyright problems

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However, for text content, you may want to consider rewriting the content in your own words. Thank you, and please feel free to continue contributing to Wikipedia. Whpq (talk) 15:55, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Question

Are you really Fr. Thomas Kuzhinapurath? BoL (Talk) 05:06, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

...? BoL (Talk) 05:04, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Notability of Thomas Naickamparambil

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[edit] Changes to Indian Christianity Wikiproject/workgroup

Upon discussion and consensus ( see here) , The following changes and decisions were taken w.r.t to Indian Christianity workgroup :-

• The scope of workgroup will be limited to Indian region only for now.
• The workgroup will be renamed to Christianity in India instead of Indian Christianity.
• The changes will effect the project pages, Portal and the templates.
• The templetes will be replaced by a Indian map instead of Tricolor flag picture.

This is FYI - Tinucherian (talk) 04:45, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Christianity

Hello Kuzhinapurath!

You are cordially invited to participate in WikiProject Christianity The goal of WikiProject Christianity is to improve the quality and quantity of information about Christianity available on Wikipedia. WP:X as a group does not prefer any particular tradition or denominination of Christianity, but prefers that all Christian traditions are fairly and accurately represented.

You are receiving this invitation because you are a member of one of the related Christianity Projects and I thought that you might be interested in this project also - Tinucherian (talk) 06:17, 24 April 2008 (UTC)