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Italy

Please look at the official site for the region (http://www.regione.trentino-a-adige.it/). It plainly does not have any such listing of "South Tyrol". The proper English equivalent would be "Upper Adige". So as an administrator, you have a responsibility to fix this. The proper name, in the English wiki, should be "Trentino-Upper Adige" with reference to "Trentino-Alto Adige" for Italian and "Sudtirol" for German. This isn't a German-Italian debate, this is what is proper. As it is an Italian province, the English equivalent is listed first, then the italian, then in this case the German (because of its diversity). Just like the region of Tuscany (Toscana). Please go ahead and initiate the changes for the pages of Bozen-Bolzano (which should be Bolzano-Bozen with redirect back), Trentino-South Tyrol and Trentino-Alto Adige (which should be Trentino-Upper Adige with redirect back on both pages). I work with the UN, if you need any more references. Thank you. Rarelibra 16:40, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

I already corrected this, using BOTH translations to identify multilingual diversity. This should satisfy. Rarelibra 16:57, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

copy+paste of three articles

Hello Kusma, I have an issue concerning the copying and pasting of articles. User:Rarelibra copied and pasted the content on three different articles in short series of time, [1] and here [2] and [3]. AFAIK copy+paste are an absolute taboo since they de-link the history of an article :See Wikipedia:How to fix cut and paste moves. I could just revert all these edits by myself obviously, but I think it will degenerate into an edit war, something which I would like to avoid. I have posted multiple warnings now as well as on the sysop noticeboard, the user seems immune in following the rules and procedures and refuses to revert the changes. Should the user be blocked or an RFC created? Thanks for your help. Gryffindor 21:35, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

This is absolutely shameful how you try to use the users and rules of WP to maintain your extreme POV. You are in fact the individual who started all this by moving Trentino-Alto Adige to Trentino-South Tyrol. You are the primary individual (all documented in the archives) who has systematically changed the names of the cities, etc.. and kept this as the status quo. We even had the Province of Bolzano (Bozen) listed as South Tyrol. I am from this region, this sort of extremisim is completely insulting. We learn to SHARE in both Trento and Bolzano/Bozen. You need a warning, and actually you are someone who should be investigated. Taalo 21:46, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
Point me in the right direction and I will initiate the investigation. Rarelibra 16:52, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, in some ways maybe it is best to just start from ground zero and point out to the establishment how this nasty situation was created... i.e., by the work of Gryffindor primarily. Taalo 17:35, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

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WikiProject Germany

Hi Kusma,

We had been talking about creating a WikiProject about the German Democratic Republic, because it was decided that a WikiProject Germany would not be feasible and a project limited to the GDR might be more interesting. Well, User:Badbilltucker has now proposed a WikiProject Germany. The temporary page is here and the proposal is listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject/List of proposed projects. What do you think?--CarabinieriTTaallkk 17:44, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

I think your draft is really good and it's definately a lot further than the draft for the Germany Project. But I don't think it would be useful to create both a general Germany Project and a GDR Project. If we were to go for a Germany Project, creating a GDR sub-division or sub-group would probably be useful. I'm unsure what the best thing to do is. It might also be useful to ask other editors, who contribute to the notice board regularly.--CarabinieriTTaallkk 18:55, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Cut-n-paste page move merges

Thanks - I'm impressed with the speed of your response for sorting out the Big Ben page move. -- Solipsist 20:17, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

  • You're welcome. I saw Big Ben in Category:Candidates for speedy deletion and thought it was a prank, so I checked it immediately. Only then I saw the full extent of the problem. Anyway, it was my first ever complex cut and paste repair, but it seems to have worked. Happy editing, Kusma (討論) 20:21, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
Out of interest, do you just use admin tools to unravel a case like this, or do you need some other access to the DB. I've unravelled some other cut-n-paste page moves and the How-To page suggests that admins could handle complex cases, but this one looked a little too far to me. -- Solipsist 20:52, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
I just used ordinary admin tools (I'm not a developer). In this case, I deleted Big Ben, selectively undeleted the revisions that needed to be merged to Big Ben (disambiguation), history merged these using the standard delete-move-restore-procedure, then undeleted the other revisions and merged them with the Clock Tower, Palace of Westminster article. As there was a clear cutoff date, it was actually not as difficult as I had feared. Kusma (討論) 20:57, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
To see the exact steps, see my log. Kusma (討論) 21:10, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
Thanks - perhaps I shouldn't have bottled out.... -- Solipsist 22:01, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
Hello, I just now saw that Big Ben was changed to a redirect. Before this, it was a dab page (which I imagine you know). It looks like this happened less than a day after I had cleaned up all the links to the dab page, pointing most of them to the Clock Tower article. I only mention this because I am wondering if I had done something wrong or wasteful which caused some problem which you had to clean up, or if this was just some unrelated activity. If I erred in some way, please let me know so I don't make the same mistake again. Thanks --After Midnight 0001 00:17, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
No problem with what you did. Somebody else had changed the page to a dab page by cutting and pasting content in a pretty messy way. From your experiences disambiguating, do you think Big Ben should point to the disambiguation page? That could be easily arranged without cut and paste now, by simply deleting the Big Ben redirect and moving the dab page over there. Should go through WP:RM, though. Kusma (討論) 05:52, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
Such an overwhelming majority of the links pointing to Big Ben were for the clock tower, that I think it is fine for it to redirect there, as long as no one removes the redirect template to point the few stray ones back to the dab page. --After Midnight 0001 10:24, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

RfA thanks

Thank you for participating in my RfA, which finished with a tally of 66/11/5. I learned quite a bit during the process, and I expect to be learning a lot more in the days ahead. I will be taking things slowly (and doing a lot of re-reading), but I hope you will let me know if there is anything I can do to improve in my new capacity. -- Merope Talk 13:26, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Talk: List of Austrian and Polish Jews

I appreciate the problems with User:Sheynhertz-Unbayg, but it cannot contribute to improving Wikipedia just to revert him blindly when he makes a constructive edit. Ironically, on Talk: List of Polish Jews you reverted to a version by an editor whom I have permanently blocked.--Runcorn 13:11, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

I have become very tired of reverting his edits, so I indeed no longer check whether they are any good. In the spirit of WP:CSD#G5 and the banning policy, I do revert him blindly and will continue to do so until he changes his behavior in a way that makes most of his edits constructive and not needing cleanup. I have no problems if people more familiar with the subject matter revert my revert. Sorry for the inconvenience, Kusma (討論) 07:25, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Disambiguation Talk Request

This is a form message being sent to all WikiProject Disambiguation participants. I recently left a proposed banner idea on the WikiProject Disambiguation talk page and I would appreciate any input you could provide. Before it can be approved or denied, I would prefer a lot of feedback from multiple participants in the project. So if you have the time please join in the discussion to help improve the WikiProject. Keep up the good work in link repair and thanks for your time. Nehrams2020 21:33, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

You might want to comment at this user's unblock request.

Please see User talk:Sheynhertz-Unbayg#Hope!. As the blocking administrator, you might want to see and comment on this. Jesse Viviano 03:43, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

I don't see any change in his behavior, and I will certainly not unblock. Netsnipe's answer is totally correct IMHO. However, this is a community ban, and so I won't mind any other administrator's unblocking if he is satisfied that Sheynhertz will change his behavior (and is willing to monitor him / discuss with him). I personally don't think there's any point in attempting to talk to him anymore, but maybe others can still reach out to him where I have failed. Kusma (討論) 08:39, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

WT:RFA

Too difficult for candidates?...yours was quite smooth I recall...although it is natural to be on the edge of one's seat each time one logs in the next day to see if some calamity has exploded.....I would say it is quite straightforward except for some candidates who are obscure and unglamorous and then people shovel all over the place for something unorthodox looking like Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Sam Vimes2. Blnguyen | BLabberiNg 08:43, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Mine was not stressful, that is true, and I wasn't complaining about my RfA. However, I find myself considering some worthy candidates for adminship and not nominating them, because I feel they'll be opposed for some spurious reasons, and I am afraid that a rejection might make them reduce their contributions to Wikipedia. (AzaToth's first RfA was like that, for example: he is a great template wizard who needed the ability to edit protected pages and was rejected on pure "too few mainspace contributions" editcountitis reasons and some even weirder oppose votes like "you don't fight vandals, so you don't need the tools"). I don't want to nominate anyone who won't clearly sail through (to minimize frustration to good contributors), and so I don't nominate anyone. Perhaps the problem is on my side, but I hope you see my point. Kusma (討論) 08:52, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

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Request

Please leave the page I nominated for deletion as history until the matter is resolved. It is pure ad hominem. I have asked the author to please delete it himself. Thank you. --DrL 19:40, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

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Request

Hi Kusma,

I moved Franz Kugler to Franz Theodor Kugler. I'd like to rename Franz Kugler (disambiguation) to Franz Kugler, to avoid numerous double redirects, but I'm not able to move the page. Can you help? Sei gesund. --Batamtig 07:02, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Done. Kusma (討論) 07:28, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
Thanks! Batamtig 21:36, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for finally deleting those broken redirects I tagged for deletion. :) — Moe 14:56, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Sure, no problem, thanks to you for the tagging! Kusma (討論) 14:59, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
Your welcome, I was bored anyways. :) — Moe 15:00, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Axis Communications

Good call ˉˉanetode╦╩ 16:46, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Things like this serve to remind me why the instructions for admins say "check the history before deleting" :-) Thanks for helping in the fight against spam, and happy editing, Kusma (討論) 16:50, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!

I just noticed the anti-vandalism work you did on my user page a while ago. Vielen Dank! samwaltz 22:27, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

CfD

Check this out: [4] bunix 02:01, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Mount Bussen

You added an image of Mount Bussen. I wonder how you managed to do that? I couldn't find anything in the commons? Could you let me into the secret? :-) Ekki01 16:45, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

I took the image from the German Wikipedia and uploaded it to the Commons using CommonsHelper, a great tool that makes uploading free images used locally on a foreign language Wikipedia to the Commons very easy. Kusma (討論) 16:49, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the hint. Ekki01 17:09, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Can you elaborate on your "speedy keep" decision?...

...And maybe I'll learn something for the future, thanks. I proposed an rfd for 2006 World Cup (disambiguation) -> 2006 World Cup. Again, these are the points I argued: a) There's no point in having the first article redirect to the second when the second is a disambiguation article itself. b) There's no point in having an article that no one will arrive at by typing its title in full. c) There's no point in having an orphan article (that no other article links to). So, what point am I missing? Sorry for abusing your patience and thank you. --maf 17:37, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Sure, no problem, your points come up quite often (probably it should be explained better somewhere), but I have an answer: We actually have a category of redirects to disambiguation pages from Somethingorother (disambiguation) to Somethingorother: Category:Redirects to disambiguation pages, which contains many such redirects. The idea is that ideally, no pages should link to a disambiguation page. Instead, the links should be fixed and point directly to the intended target. The people at WP:DPL go and fix these links once a disambiguation page has sufficiently many incoming links to be considered a problem. However, sometimes pages legitimately link to disambiguation pages, for example São Paulo (disambiguation) links to Saint Paul. To show that this link is deliberate and should not be replaced by a link to any of the pages listed on Saint Paul, it goes through the redirect Saint Paul (disambiguation). So the redirect you nominated is probably not very useful right now, but it is one of the types mentioned at WP:R and therefore eligible for a speedy keep. Oh, and for b) and c): we often keep "useless" redirects unless they are actively harmful, especially if they are results of merges or duplicate pages (to prevent recreation). I hope I answered your question, best wishes and happy editing, Kusma (討論) 17:57, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
Additionally, the article was moved by cut and paste at one point in time (deleting would have been harmful, as the (disambiguation) version contained most of the history). I have fixed that now by merging most of the page histories. Kusma (討論) 07:24, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Wow

GF is on the Main Page :-). alx-pl d 09:46, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Pretty cool, yeah :-) That would have been impossible without your extension way back then. Nice to see that you're still checking in. All the best, Kusma (討論) 09:49, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
In fact, that was just by accident. ;-) But, maybe I'll write something soon about pantoum here. alx-pl d 10:03, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Ah, that explains it

Okay, let the fun begin! Thanks for letting me know :) Glen 10:07, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

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User:129.234.4.1

I hope you don't mind that I altered the block on this account slightly, so that users can log in from it and edit; its an IP address for my halls at university, from which I happened to be editing at the same time.

Along those lines, I'd ask you to conisder reducing the time on that to a few hours (12 hours would baisically make it an overnight ban in this part of the world); seems a bit unfair to block legitimate users for one guy's idiocy. --Robdurbar 15:35, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Oops, sorry I had not checked the IP first, but blocked it immediately for its use of deceptive summaries and subtle error vandalisms. I have reduced the block to three hours. Kusma (討論) 15:45, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

AWB

Thanks for telling me that. I hadn't realized I was editing that fast.--CarabinieriTTaallkk 15:58, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

A humble request for your opinion

Hello! I hope you are feeling fine. Recently, you expressed an oppose opinion with regards to my RfA. I would like to thank your feedback on this but I need another critical feedback from you. If you could spare a few minutes to voice any concerns you may be having with regards to my contributions to this project since my last RfA on this page, I would be most grateful. Once again, thank you for your time! --Siva1979Talk to me 05:50, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Request

Hi, I just by accident came upon patterollers that you had deprodded due to lack of objection. I think it is wiki-worthy, and would like to add to it. Any chance you could put it back? Happy to make my case at greater length, if need be. Thanks. IronDuke 03:00, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

I have restored the article and redirected the it to Slave patrol for the time being (should have done that instead of deleting anyway). I think that is the better title for an article about this phenomenon, and I don't think there should be two separate articles. Happy editing, Kusma (討論) 07:24, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
Perfect... thanks very much. IronDuke 14:52, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

My RfA

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