Talk:Kush (cannabis)

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Don't fool yourselves, you know as little about Kush as the rest of the general public, Gordonliu. Your Diesel and Dawg stories were nice but are totally unrelated to the discussion of Kush. As a resident of Southern California my whole life I have come across a variety of strains which were all very unique but shared common characteristics distinctly "Kush". Orange Kush, Lemon-Lime Kush, Purple Kush, Strawberry Kush, Lemon Kush, Bubblegum Kush etc, that all have the essential "Kush" qualities, while running all across the spectrum from knockout indica Orange Kush to trippy Sativa like Lemon-Lime, and everything in between.

The rest of the strains you mentioned that are not called Kush are irrelevant to this discussion. The online cannabis community forums like ICMag and HG420 are have individuals who will proclaim theory fact and pass on incorrect knowledge readily. The 2 OG Kush cuts I recieved as "elites" were watered down, probably bagseed, and were overall disappointing. Somehow there are at least 6 or 7 versions of the OG Kush cut floating along in these communities with differing repute, which is nonsense, but I digress. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.87.246.145 (talk) 17:24, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

How about yung joc saying "blow the kush in they face" maybe kush means sperm

it is probably a reference to a shotgun Ettiesniffs 03:23, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

OG Kush should indeed be merged as a sub category under herb. Although a fairly new term it is widely recognized throughout the West Coast as referring to a strain of Cannabis.

Minnehaha 18:06, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

i agree. I can almost guarantee without any doubt, that if kush is ever mentioned in a popular culture reference, it is almost certainly in reference to the cannabis strain. there is no ambiguity about the term. it either means cannabis, or it literally refers to the region in asia known as the Hindu Kush. there exists no usage of the word kush as slang, unless you consider the title of the strain as being a slang usage of the actual word, in which case the only slang usage refers to the cannabis strain.

also, chemdawg, og kush, sour diesel, diesel, etc are all not CONFIRMED as kush strains. Dawg, which was the original name of the strain that is now more commonly referred to as chemdaw, was first developed from bagseed. the bag that the seed came from was a large amount of cannabis that was sold to the originator of the strain at a grateful dead concert (i think). the guy who bought the bag knew he bought some gold, and so searched and found several seeds, which he grew out and mothered. the name "chemdaw" refers to the fact that this strain is generally difficult to grow using organic soil amendments and generally requires the use of CHEMical fertilizers and stabilizers to produce a high yielding high quality crop. there exist many conflicting stories about the history of chemdawg/og kush/sour diesel. one story tells that some east coast growers got there hands on a clone of chemdawg and crossed it with Massachusetts's super skunk. this story is out of the cannabible. another story goes that chemdawg, og and sourd are all actually the same strain. the story basically says that og kush and sour diesel are actually just cuttings from a chemdawg plant, and that the east coast growers renamed the strain to sour diesel because they believed that the name "chemdawg" would deter people from buying it. the west coast version, as the story goes, was renamed to og kush, because the originator, who goes by various handles online usually chemdawg, believed that there were some hindu kush genetics in chemdawg.

the point is that, kush or not, og kush, sour diesel, and chemdawg are all bagseed. no one really knows what the actual genetics are because no one has done any dna testing to determine the actual genetics of the strains. there is obviously a possibility that og kush, chemdawg and sour d are real kush strains, but there also exists the possibility that none of them are even closely related to hindu kush.

heck, most growers call sour d a sativa, and many people would call chemdawg a sativa, but most people call og kush an indica. hindu kush is an indica.

i believe that there should be a separate subsection for og kush, as there is not enough information to classify it as a true kush

also, when rappers refer to kush they are either referring to purple kush, which flooded california before the recent huge rise in medical marijuana, or og kush. purple kush was a strain that the hells angels and other gangs popularized along with white widow, hashplant, and orange krush.

btw, kush strains are good, and chemdawg strains are also good, but the best strains are sativas like kali myst and ak-47. they can achieve thc concentrations in the high 20% range and almost reaching 30 percent thc by weight. TheRealGordonliu 02:13, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

I definitely challenge the above statements. Chemdawg's name comes from the chemical-like smell. It is true that it performs better grown non-organically, but that's beside the point. OG Kush is a true Kush; despite it's pungent Chemdawg genetics, a smell similar to Master Kush or Pure Kush is also observed in high-quality batches. And chemdawg is called DOG (not dawg) when it is grown organically (Dawg Organically Grown) - referenced from the second Cannabible, among other sources.

Percentage of THC is unimportant as it is not always concurrent with the subjective effects of the actual experience; there's is evidence that a high presence of cannabidiol (CBD) can interfere with the expected (euphoric/psychedelic) effects of the THC.

Sour Diesel is a Sativa-Indica hybrid that leans slightly more toward Sativa, in plant structure, and somewhat also in effects.

Rappers can be referring to any kind of Kush. There are many.

As far as bagseed goes, many plants that are sold on the street (as opposed to in a dispensary) have been crossed with C. rudimentalis to some extent, in order to increase the plants hardiness (and as a result of accidental pollination). This cross also decreases potency.

And as for the top, "blow the kush in they face" means blowing Kush smoke in their face.

Tre Doggy

Let me crack an egg of knowledge for you guys, it's not Dawg or Chem, it's Chemdawg. That's the name of the strain. OG Kush is an S1 (hermied offspring) of Chemdawg. Nothing was crossed to make OG, OG is Chemdawg.

Whether of not Chemdawg contains Kush genetics is really unknown, but it is believed to be true.

forgot to add, there's these things called phenotypes. Two plants of the same strain can have two totally different looks, smells, tastes, highs, etc.

OG Kush IS Chemdawg.

http://icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=60048

also, the cannibible is filled with the same bullshit that people spread around. just because some growers told the author something doesnt make it true.

that fact should be evident from the fact that we are even discussing the validity of the chemdawg history and genetics. if it wasnt for people who told stories that were not true, this wouldnt even be an issue.

also, its ruderalis not rudementalis, and you must come from a shitty area if youve ever even seen an autoflowering ruderalis crop. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by TheRealGordonliu (talk • contribs) 04:58, August 22, 2007 (UTC).

There was no talk of these varietys on the west coast or the online forums before 2003. Not one single person can show an authenticatable cited source of these varietys before 2003. They are the result of a marketing scheme started at an online marijuana community somewhere between 2002-2003. The online marijuana communities were all operated and still are operated by seed merchants who make money off of the members of the online communities who interact at their websites. The marijuana varietys are marketed to the public and the public buys them. This is common in many industries and should not become to anyone as a surprise here. Notice the dates on this quotes, they represented the earliest known postings of these varietys. I encourage any of you to find a source before 2003 or 2004. [IMG]http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee308/flexwave2003/Orgnkidsslip.jpg[/IMG] This image shows one of the members who were marketing these varietys on the forums, he was one of a few members who were the very first to post publically about these varietys. He conveniently enough started to sell seeds from these varietys soon afterwards. You will also see the lineage of the variety to be Purple Kush x Bubblegum. Now exactly how would he know that, unless he was responsible for the variety? Considering nobody had even heard of it until that time. [IMG]http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee308/flexwave2003/kushcali.jpg[/IMG] Nobody had even heard of the guy, until another member of the forums spoke up for him. Claiming to have taught the guy everything he knows. [IMG]http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee308/flexwave2003/vapourtrainedorgn.jpg[/IMG] Meanwhile, members at the community had never heard of the varietys Bubba and OG Kush or the guys hyping these varietys up. Again, notice the dates which can be found to this day with a search. [IMG]http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee308/flexwave2003/Texaskidhasnoideawhotheseidiotsare.jpg[/IMG] And again, a member who infact sold seeds himself had no idea about these varietys either. Again, notice the date. [IMG]http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee308/flexwave2003/reznoideaaboutorgnkid.jpg[/IMG]

Again one of the guys responsible for the marketing of the OG and Bubba kush varietys. Notice he has the mother plant to OG kush. What a surprise? [IMG]http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee308/flexwave2003/OGersmom.jpg[/IMG]

The facts these varietys were hyped to the community online as being the holy grail. Its infact a selected cut from dutch varietys that are readily assessible to anyone who wants them. Selection is always necessary in any variety to choose a desireable phenotype. These varietys are good, but no better then anything else from dutch origin that was grown and selected based on desireable characteristics. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Og Kush Breeder (talk • contribs) 15:20, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Green Crack??

Is it true Green Crack (cannabis strain) is a type of Cush?? What is the sativa to indica ratio of green crack? Zachorious (talk) 03:34, 3 January 2008 (UTC)