Talk:Kurdish nationalism

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"the largest people without a piece of land"? In the sense "without a nation state", the English and the Han Chinese are also "without a piece of land", being, like the Kurds of various countries, citizens of multi-ethnic states. dab (𒁳) 10:16, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

the correct (neutral) phrasing would probably be, "the largest people who are not the ethnic majority in any country". But this isn't correct. With some 30M, they beat the Tatars, Zhuang and the Romani people. But the Tamils with 77 M are an ethnicity twice as large as the Kurds, and they don't have their sovereign nation state either. They do have significant autonomy in Tamil Nadu, but that's still under the rule of the Republic of India. The same holds for the Marathi people (70 M) or Gujarati people (50 M). The Sundanese people, Hausa people and Yoruba people are of comparable numbers with the Kurds. Thus, the statement is clearly false. At best, we can say that the Kurds are "the largest people that are making a big noise about their irredentist demands". dab (𒁳) 11:22, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

The source says what is said... I guess the reference author is wrong. --Vonones 18:00, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

This page deals with the national political movement, rather than nationality (which is itself an elusive category, in that the Kurds do not possess a nation-state). Remove material about the nationalist struggle that appears on other pages, and focus instead on issues such as

• the civic rights of Kurds in each of the four states that divide Kurdistan
• Kurdish migration and diaspora, and the nature of their citizenship abroad
• political, social, civil, military, cultural programs of authorities in autonomous regions of Kurdistan.

Will Hanley (talk) 21:58, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] West , East and northern Kurdistan

In the article , User:Lapsed Pacifist , changed my edit ([1]) due to "Reference is made to the current political delineations". I want him to discuss more about this .If that is a geographical name , the definition of them is unknown . If it a POV naming policy , according to unify every Kurdish region , then it is against the NPOV. As an example : where is east Kurdistan ? Is it every region of Iran , that the Kurdish speakers are in majority? Then what about the eastern parts of Iran ( North of Khurasan) that is a Kurdish inhibited region ? Or if it is supposed to be any Kurdish language place in continuity with other Kurdish language places , then what about the Bakhtiari's , Laks or Lors in Iran ? almost every Iranian language in the western regions of Iran are more than cognate languages to Kurdish and there are no real dividing line between the Kurdish and non- Kurdish languages. Same is about the Zaza's in Turkey , or Dilimis .Again , same about the Fili's in Iraq and Surani and Kurmanji's .... Such a naming policy is imprecise and unfamiliar . --Alborz Fallah (talk) 21:01, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

See Kurdistan.

Lapsed Pacifist (talk) 10:23, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

• Thank you for replay , but in brief I'm saying the "West Kurdistan " , " East Kurdistan" and etc , are obscure names and does not show a known geographical entity.--Alborz Fallah (talk) 20:48, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

They're not obscure terms to the Kurds. They're parts of Kurdistan.

Lapsed Pacifist (talk) 21:01, 23 May 2008 (UTC)