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[edit] Status

It is not a country how can it be a national flag? In 1946 there was a kurdish state? thats news to me. --Cat out 23:05, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)

This is really serious. Wikipedia should not become a medium for deliberately and intentionally spreading falsehoods which only serve certain minority political groups among the Kurds. The entire idea of this flag is nonsense. It is not recognized anywhere in the world, nor has it any legal status. It is a transformation of the Iranian flag (flipped upside down and the lion removed from from before the sun). This is more than obvious. This page absolutely has no place whatsoever on a neutral wiki server. -- unsigned comment left by 130.161.44.115

Just because it's a matter of discussion doesn't mean it should not be on Wikipedia. Furthermore, a flag doesn't have to have legal status to be interesting, notable, or worthy of an article; for example, a number of French territories have unofficial flags with no legal status whatsoever, yet they're still on Wikipedia. And thirdly, if you want to discuss changes to this article, I'd suggest you get a user account. — ナイトスタリオン ㇳ–ㇰ — 10:09, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

How people can say that the lands mentioned are the homeland of Kurds. All of the mentioned region was defended with the blood of Turkish soldiers. I have to defend my 10,000 years of history so if you will only consider the data entered by Kurd here, it will be hard to think about the neutral status of Wikipedia. When they write about an imaginery indipendence war, you consider their data as valid but when I mention the reality that there were no legal region of Kurds or even not a single country in the history releated to Kurds, you consider my data as invalid. You have to explain me why you behave like this or I will see you as a supporter of terrorism. Deliogul 22:35, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Read my comment below. No one ever said Kurdistan is a country, so it's pointless to say that it isn't. —Khoikhoi 20:31, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] from Vfd

On 19 Feb 2005, this article was nominated for deletion. The result was keep. See Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Flag of Kurdistan for a record of the discussion.

[edit] Is this really a stub?

Should the stub be removed from this page?

I don't think three sentences makes an article. The stub message is there to encourage people to expand the article.Iota 18:49, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] POV

Removing POV tag. The main objection seems to be that it exists; it might be a POV flag, but the article on the flag does not seem to be.--The Minister of War 05:57, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Kurdish Flag isnot based on the Iranian flag

The Kurdish flag is similar to the flags of Hungary, Tajikistan, Ghana, Ethiopia, Bolivia and Iran. However, it isnot based on the Iranian one. (For a list these flags see [1]). The yellow sun in the center of the flag, is the distinct character of the Kurdish Flag, which cannot be found in other flags.Heja Helweda 06:01, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Banned

The distinctive red, yellow and green of the Kurdish flag is banned in Turkey, indeed at the height of the conflict in Batman, one of the largest towns in the Kurdish area had the amber light of the traffic lights removed as the red, amber and green was seen as symbolizing the Kurdish struggle! The Turkish flag however, was flying everywhere, some of the flags so big they covered the fronts of entire buildings. Also written everywhere above the streets, in very large letters was the slogan, ‘How happy is he who calls himself a Turk?’ - Maybe, but what about the Kurds?”

According to this report, the Kurdish flag is banned in Turkey. Is this the case? - FrancisTyers 19:53, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

I do think it is. I don't think the government of Turkey likes the idea of an independant Kurdish state.. I can't confirm that it is banned, but I definately don't believe it would be popular to be put it up over there! --Kash 22:57, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
I for one am warry of the citation. Both sources are less than neutral. I do not believe the flag itself is banned. I however believe raising it is considered a "civil-disturbance" which is also inconclusive since flag is generaly raised during civil disturbances already in progress. --Cat out 16:00, 17 September 2006 (UTC)


It is banned, personal experience lol

It is in deed banned in Turkey. But also Iran and Syria —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.225.3.24 (talk) 23:07, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] To clear things up

I don't see anywhere in the article that it says "Kurdistan is a country". I don't know anyone who thinks it is, either. It's a geographic region, as well as a cultural one, which makes it a notable term. It's only a political region in Iraq, but not in Turkey, Syria, and Iran, and it shouldn't be made on on Wikipedia. However, adding "Kurdistan is not a country" is pointless. —Khoikhoi 22:19, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Flag of Antarctica has been around for a while I doubt this article is going anywhere.Geni 13:23, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thats My Flag

I'm from Iraqi Kurdistan that ("ala Rangin" "the coloured banner") is my official flag according to the Iraqi federal and Kurdistan regional constitutions, If it is removed i will make it my lifes work to remove the state flags of the US and every other federal state in the world. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cyrus123 (talk • contribs)

Irrelevant discussion and comments are not welcome. Vandalism is a blockable offense. I highyly discourage it. --Cat out 13:00, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Name and the 21 rays

The name of the flag should be included in this artigle Allay Rengín/Ala Rengîn (the colored banner). This name can be compared to the brittish and american flags, Union Jack and Stars and Stripes.

About the 21 rays, the number 21 is the holy number of the Yazdani religion(s). Namely Alevi, Yarsani and Yezidi/Yazidi. But the article only links to one of the named branches of the Yazdani religion.

[edit] Colors & Pattern

The article discusses the significance of the Sun, but it doesn't mention the colors and their positioning. This is odd, considering most of the other flags explain the significance of such things. I think that it should be added. It looks like Iran's, but with reverse order. An explanation is called for. The Behnam 03:59, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

They are similar. It may have some connections with Iranian flag [2], as both Kurds and Persians are related to eachother, themselves. The answer of this question may be found in Xoybun documents. Asoyrun 21:57, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
The colors stand for Red: The blood and sacrifice of the Kurdish people. White: Peace. Green: Nature (which I guess must mostly refer to the mountains, but still nature). I don't think there is a direct linkt between the kurdish flag and the iranian. it could today perhaps be considered a pan-aryan coloring as the red,green and black of the pan-arabian colors. but this is i believe a later construction. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.225.3.24 (talk) 22:58, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The other flag

The flag with the star-like sun [3] has long been favored and encouraged by Kurdish scholars, but Barzani does not allow to adopt it, saying the current flag of Kurdistan [4] is a historic flag for Kurdish movement:(
Even Mam Jalal has prefered it to the current flag! Henisk 04:31, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
What scholars do you reffer to? The "star-like sun" flag is the former flag of Iraq, it has never been a flag for Kurdistan. The only link to the Kurds is the sun. I don't think the old Iraqi flag is more popular than the current Alla Rengín in the kurdish publics mind. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.225.3.24 (talk) 22:55, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
The 1959-1963 flag of Iraq is favored with respect to the 1963-2008 flags of Iraq... AnonMoos (talk) 23:53, 24 January 2008 (UTC)