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[edit] Popular culture list
IMHO, the "List of kunoichi in popular culture" section is waaaay too long. It needs some trimming...68.228.75.74 09:40, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
- I'd say, branch it off into a new article, and put this text into that section:
- --Henrickson 00:40, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Kunoichi Ways
This entire section is poorly written and cites no sources. With no sources (and how reputable are the sources cited in the rest of the article?), I think this section should be deleted.
Westerly 05:32, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
- The dictionary source is pretty reputable. The rest, well, those are sources and seems to be verifiable(I did not try to verify them, though) This article needs a lot of work, a lot more sources and no matter what we do, this section you are talking about probably will not stay as what it looks like now. I'd say be bold and delete it. MythSearchertalk 07:54, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] History
The entire edit done on 10:02, 4 June 2007 should be removed, or at least this material should not appear in the History section, as it is based on the controversial and historically dubious writings of Ashida Kim. The kunoichi do have a historical basis in Japan that vastly predates the Tong wars in the US.
- What do you think about using http://hatsumi.free.fr/hatsumi-painter-kunoichi.htm as a source for editing this thing out of Ashida Kim's hands? Kendamu 14:36, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
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- Looks reasonable, yet strange. This is an artist page, and the article there is a short lesson for people to understand the picture only. Not much authoritative knowledge is reviewed there. (Artist knowing much about female ninjas? hmmm...) MythSearchertalk 16:51, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
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- That would be Masaaki Hatsumi. It may be his artist website, but he's considered to be one of the world's big authorities on Ninjutsu. He's the grandmaster of, amongst others, three Ninja fighting arts. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masaaki_Hatsumi I'd say that info would be safer to use than Ashida Kim's stuff. Kendamu 05:35, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
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The entire thing just seems like nonsensical fantasy garbage, to an objective reader, educated beyond Anime 101. How do ronin figure into any of this? This isn't a samurai article, and the word itself isn't a generic do-all. It's much more specific than something able to be applied generally like this. If you're going to tell the story of a woman/clan in your HISTORY section, perhaps some specification by way of... a name would help? This just seems like conjecture on the part of someone who reads too much manga. A source to any of this, a name, a reason to believe any of it... a semblance of logic? Any of it would help the credibility of this article.Skinspiral (talk) 06:48, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
- To an Actual reader, educated beyond a level where looking up the dictionary is common sense of credibility, please look at the source of the Japanese Dictionary(ref 4, that is). The article might be crap, but a sourced dictionary is more than fantasy garbage to anyone really sensical. Also, the second section quoted books from 1680 and 1716, which is pretty logical to me and I assume any regular editor and viewer of this page. So I guess you are no regular and seems like one that either did not actually read the text or simply ignore them. MythSearchertalk 09:57, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
- Actually, I agree with him. The etymology section is alright, but both the history and the "Kunoichi Ways" sections are pretty much garbage. The first has one dubious source (that conflicts with the information in the etymology section), while the latter cites nothing at all, and seems to be entirely based on pop culture imports. Nothing about this is encyclopedic.
- I'm actually pretty surprised that this article is in such bad shape, given the popularity of the topic. No article at all might be better than this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.201.158.102 (talk) 00:02, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
- Agreed. What the hell is up with that story about "the daughter of one assassinated lord", etc? "Her real name has been lost to time, but she was known as the “Dragon Lady” (Kunoichi)." Sounds like something from a bad movie (and a terrible dictionary, for the last part)... 88.161.129.43 (talk) 01:10, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Cahracter from InuYasha, Sango
Would Sango, the demon slayer character from the TV Anime and Japanese Manga, InuYasha, be counted among this list?
In her fighting form, she seems much like the trickery provided of the female ninja way.
Not trying to force an idea, just food for thought..
--- BH 11-3-07 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.255.244.126 (talk) 23:56, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:TenchuRFD Ayame 3.jpg
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BetacommandBot (talk) 08:59, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
