Talk:Kumite-ryu Jujutsu
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[edit] Titles
PRehse, I appreciate that you gave this article your attention. But I have made a few changes: I have restored the title of "Professor" to Florendo Visitacion because it was given to him by the American Judo and Jujitsu Federation, and I have restored the title of "Soke" to John Davis because it is his rightful title. I have also re-capitalized several words. Again, I do appreciate that you are paying attention to this little article, so please don't take my modifications as retribution or any similar act.
Joe routt 20:23, 17 November 2006 (UTC)Joe Routt
Joe - I wont change things back. My main concern was article asssement for the martial arts project and correct categorization but in the process I usually do a bit of cleanup and wikification. Please take a look at Wikipedia:WikiProject Martial Arts both the project and talk pages. There it talks about capitalization and title use. Aikido and jujutsu should not be capitalized unless part of a proper name and titles well they tend to be overused. I would suggest if you use Professor you are clear where that title cames from, also Soke. Frankly the martial arts world (particularily in America) is full of Professors and Soke either self assigned or through ""soke mills" which is almost the same thing. Generally the titles if used should be used sparingly. Hope this helps.Peter Rehse 00:35, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks, P. I know about the "soke mill" bit. I'll take a closer look at the project page, but I think that Prof. V's title is at least somewhat legitimate since it was at least granted to him by the AJJF. Thanks for the help.
Joe routt 20:09, 21 November 2006 (UTC)Joe routt
Peter - I went ahead and made some modifications, and I'm pretty sure this page is now in compliance with the Martial Arts guidelines. I don't want this art to be brushed off as just another factory-made soke running a McDojo out of the local YMCA. It's a real art, and I'm trying to present it that way. I may also make some modifications to help clean up Moses Powell.
Joe routt 20:42, 21 November 2006 (UTC)Joe routt
Hi Joe - I actually like the article and find the personalities interesting and well worth talking about. Again - the idea is to make it encyclopedic rather than homepagey (is that a word). That's why I took the effort. Good job.Peter Rehse 00:31, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
Me again - the only thing holding the article back from a B-class rating are sources - I put the tag in the article. I just fixed up Fugakukai International Association which is a good example on the use of references, external links and sources.Peter Rehse 08:29, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
Peter - Just added some sources (it actually took me a while to get the hang of it!). I'll leave it to you to determine whether that's sufficient or not.
OK I promoted it. List of Dojos - should that not include where Davis teaches. I personally would take down the Kumite-ryu homepage reference until it gets better - it really looks a little bit .... minor (I don't want that to sound offensive but take a look at my own dojo homepage via my user page and I am definately minor). Now I know where the Moses Powell obit came from. His wiki page could have disappeared real quick because of copyright problems but no danger of that now (its changed enough). When and if the Kumite homepage expands (I'm assuming you are involved) please make sure that there can be no copyright confusion - wikipedia (rightly so) has gotten anal about it. And by the by - how about putting some info on your own user page. Always good to know who you are dealing with. CheersPeter Rehse 02:32, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
Davis alternates between his dojos. He usually comes to my dojo (in Sarasota, FL) once or twice a week, but other than that, I don't know his schedule. I just haven't really discussed it with him. I took down the Kumite-ryu homepage (My Shihan's working on it, but he's taking his time, and I'm probably going to start working on it soon too).
I'd just like to thank 71.249.40.173 for contributing to the list of dojos. I was starting to think no one was going to help. Thanks a lot!
[edit] "Usa" means courtesy?
Could you confirm what language "usa" means courtesy in? The rest of the article almost exclusively uses Japanese terminology, but I can't find "usa" in any Japanese dictionary as meaning courtesy. Do you perhaps mean aiso (愛想)? Or do you mean osu (押忍), which is a military-ish grunt of acknowledgement (sort of like "aye") often used between male friends, and whose use proliferates through many modern Japanese martial arts practiced in the U.S.? Bradford44 19:54, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
You're right, Bradford. It should read that "osu" is a form of acknowledgement, and, through that, courtesty. Thanks for noticing.
