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[edit] OS Development Wikiproject proposal

Just to add something else to your talk page. I have just put a proposal for a wikiproject on OS development, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Proposals#OS_Development

Wondering if you'd interested?

Jamie

Jatos 09:11, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

No sorry, presently I feel I rather need to quit wikipedia. --Kubanczyk 09:18, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
Ok, np. Still, if you know anyone who might interested, couldn't point them in my direction please? Jatos 20:26, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Editing

Hi

I noticed you've been editing the wikipedia article on memory segmentation. See as your editing as the same time as me, i'll let you know I am going to be making a few edits to paging.

Jatos 21:47, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Go on then, I'm tired anyway, going to finish work tomorrow. --Kubanczyk 21:55, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
Ok. I have finished the editing on paging for now. If you get a chance, would you be able to look at my edits to see if theres anything you need changing? I made several edits including some removal of inaccuracies and general making some info clear. Also somebody largely said that paging is used seperating processes, well it can be but it isn't always. Personally, I wouldn't use the methods that where mentioned to write an OS, though thats not entirely related to the article.
Also, do you have IM? I use MSN, AIM, Yahoo, GTalk, Jabber and Skype. If your ok with giving me your IMs, you can email them to me mail@jatos.co.uk as to avoid posting these publically on your talk page.
Anyway, I am off to bed, tired as well.
Thanks, Jamie
Jatos 22:31, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your help

Not at all, Kubanczyk - and as I've just noticed, since you seem to have arrived recently, welcome to Wikipedia! I think your comments are helpful, and maybe I could title the page Dominance and monopoly law? It's also a matter of trying to set it up with the law on mergers and acquisitions and that on collusion and cartels - but maybe they could all follow the format of that in the first...

Enough said, glad to have your input. Happy editting! Wikidea 12:58, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Glad to read that. Now I see your article was an elevated section (a split) of Competition law and the title was copied from the section title. Not a best naming practice, I must say. See my edit, eventually move the page :) --Kubanczyk 20:15, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] About mod to 3705 comm ctrl

You state that the 3705 is the *first* comm ctrl, etc..

However, the 3705 was preceded by the 3704 and prior to that, by 2701 and 2703 which can also be viewed as communication controller front ends..

Just curious..

--Ivan

Ivan Scott Warren 22:19, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

No, it's not my statement. Any changes I did were cleanup/merge. Can't remeber the details. My knowledge about 3705 is close to zero, so any such statements would be probably because of my mistake or misunderstanding. Feel free to correct. --Kubanczyk 06:42, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Editprotected on {{disambig}}

There's an editrequested request on {{disambig}} based on a discussion you were part of; you may want to comment on Template talk:Disambig#Admin action requested. --ais523 11:59, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for the info! --Kubanczyk 14:54, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] History of IBM mainframe operating systems

Sorry to hear you don't like the way the structure of History of IBM mainframe operating systems is developing - and we (naively?) thought we had agreed it.

Of course you're free to edit - any one is, and you're part of the "project".

I think from now on we should discuss this in Talk:History of IBM mainframe operating systems: it should be public; we can't keep using Talk:MVS, as that would impede people who only want to discuss MVS, and would lead to both MVS-specific discussions and the wider ones being archived because Talk:MVS would grow very quickly. So I've copied all the "rewrite" discussion to Talk:History of IBM mainframe operating systems and pointed this out in Talk:MVS.

I've posted in Talk:History of IBM mainframe operating systems an explanation of the current structure so it's public - please reply there.Philcha 12:17, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Incorrect edit

I left feedback to your inquiry here: [Link]

[edit] Thanks for removing the dispute of SMP

I wanted to thank you for removing the disputed tag off of SMP. I have hoped I have addressed any controversy, and covered all the bases for now. Not that it will ever come up again, but at least for now, I can start further work on the article to bring it along so that it no longer is a 'requires cleanup' article. Thanks! 67.188.118.64 06:57, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

No problem, I generally tend to remove any "stalled" tags. I treat tags as a normal article content, so if they violate Wikipedia criteria of verifiability or notability—bye bye! --Kubanczyk 07:04, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] History of IBM mainframe operating systems - where next?

I've added as much as I think is sensible, and we need to decide where to go next - see Talk:History of IBM mainframe operating systems . Philcha (talk) 17:30, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merging into OS/360 and successors

Hi. I'm surprised you oppose merging OS/VS1 into OS/360 and successors. Our objective in starting the restructure of articles about IBM mainframe OSs was to reduce duplication. OS/360 and successors already presents more info about OS/VS1 but concisely, because it builds on the info about MFT. The same will be true for merging in MVS etc., except that I currently expect to keep a separate article about z/OS because it's the current member of the OS/360 lineage.

I think Wikipedia:Summary Style is more relevant to topics that are common to multiple lineages, e.g. VSAM and SNA in the OS/360, DOS/360 and VM lineages. I suspect these topics should be part of articles "IBM mainframe file access methods" and "IBM data communications facilities". I know this is not exactly what we discussed in Talk: History of IBM mainframe operating systems, at that stage we didn't know that OS/360 and successors would be able to give so much info so concisely.

I think "DOS/360 and successors" should go the same way. At present I'm less sure about the article on IBM virtual machine and timesharing OSs, because the pre-VM/370 history is fairly complex. From VM/370 onwards I expect it to be fairly simple.

By the way, why is Philcha in your list of "links to check if I'm bored"? Philcha (talk) 09:49, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

"I'm surprised you oppose merging" - well don't be, I provided some clear reasons. I think Wikipedia:Summary style applies perfectly; if you read it, there is a guideline there when it is advisable to use it.
I'm not opposing of "cutting some fat" from those articles, to reduce the duplication almost to zero; in fact I support it. But most notable operating systems should have their own articles—maybe short ones, maybe even {{stub}}s. There are many MVS links spread over Wikipedia, if a user clicks it he expects a quick explanation first, he does not usually want to read a whole history starting from 1966 just to answer "what the heck is this MVS?".
"why ... links to check if I'm bored" - well, it seems like you write some interesting texts from time to time :)) Definately not because I want to stalk you! If I seem to be picky sometimes, this is because I have mainly WP improvement on my mind. --Kubanczyk (talk) 11:04, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
I also have mainly WP improvement on my mind. OS/360 and successors presents comprehensive information very concisely because each new section builds on a previous one, and it also enables a reader to see what were the main differences between adjacent members of the lineage. The article's TOC will guide a reader who simply wants to know what was different about e.g. MVS/ESA. A separate article about some version of MVS would either: (a) just state the differences, in which case it would be marked as a stub with an invitation to expand it (duplicating content) and would not help a reader with no knowledge of previous versions; or (b) it would be about the size of the current MVS article, with most of its content duplicated elsewhere. Philcha (talk) 18:02, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Re merging MVS, etc. into OS/360 and successors can you think of any other sources besides the ones I've listed in Talk:OS/360 and successors#Merge with MVS?

  • If you can, please add them to my notes.
  • If not, I think we need to decide whether we should treat MVS... a long history and subsequernt pages as a reliable source - both technically and in terms of permanence.
    • If we treat it as a reliable source, I think it has enough material for MVS to stay separate, but I'd then merge all the later MVS versions including OS/390 into MVS.
    • If we don't treat MVS... a long history etc. as a reliable source, we have a problem since I've found very little citable material. So either:
      • We use the material anyway and hope someone else can find good sources. In this case I'd keep MVS separate, but merge all the later MVS versions including OS/390 into MVS.
      • We say only what we can support by citations, in which case there's so little that I'd want to merrge MVS etc. into OS/360 and successors. Philcha (talk) 08:09, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
I need some time to think about the sources... Certainly the author of the MVS... a long history put some tought into researching his own sources. I don't know. --Kubanczyk (talk) 22:35, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi, have you reached a conclusion about whether we should cite MVS... a long history? As far as I can see that's the key to whether we should merge MVS and articles about its successors (excluding z/OS until that is replaced) into OS/360 and successors. Without it I don't think there's enough usable material about MVS etc. to justify separate articles because even IBM's site seems to have taken offline or thoroughly hidden anything we'd want to cite. And I'm reluctant to start on DOS/360 etc. or VM/370 etc. until the OS/360 etc. situation is resolved. I suggest we discuss this on our Talk pages. I look forward to hearing from you soon. Philcha (talk) 13:19, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Nice to see that you're back. Hope you had a good Christmas and New Year. We need to make some progress with History of IBM Mainframs OSs project. I've asked for some other input on how far we we can merge all the articles on OS variants (including MVS and successors), but I's still like to hear from you about it. Philcha (talk) 17:03, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Nah, I'm not really back, just fooling around. Please don't expect any serious contributions from me in the foreseeable future :)) --Kubanczyk (talk) 21:03, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I see you're happy to use DOS/360 and successors to cover that lineage (except probably keeping a separate article for z/VSE). Have you reached a conclusion about whether we should cite MVS... a long history? As far as I can see that's the key to whether we should merge MVS and articles about its successors (excluding z/OS until that is replaced) into OS/360 and successors. Philcha (talk) 13:37, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
Hello, Philcha. No, I've only quickly merged DOS/VS, because it contained only little meaningful content. I think we can use "MVS a long history", but with a bit of reserve. This is not a well-established source, it's just the readily available one. Btw. I still oppose complete merge of MVS (etc...) into OS/360 and successors, for reasons already mentioned. --Kubanczyk (talk) 07:32, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
We agree that MVS... a long history is "not a well-established source, it's just the readily available one" (although it looks like it's written by a very competent person). Meanwhile rationilising the IBM mainframe OS articles has stalled because of the merger issue. I think we should invite comments from Wikipedia:WikiProject Computing, and am doing that now. Philcha (talk) 08:53, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
Nice. I (still) have all the relevant talk pages in my watchlist, so see you there. --Kubanczyk (talk) 09:45, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] paging and swapping

The point of the edit was to make that distinction early on (it is sometime incorrectly called swapping) without being preachy, and to provide a very brief explanation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.89.175.11 (talk) 21:51, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Well, but this was discussed earlier, see talk page. The word "swapping" means a special kind of paging on *some* systems. On other systems it isn't. --Kubanczyk (talk) 21:57, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
I guess my roots are showing; VM/CMS, paging OK, swapping BAD. --66.89.175.11 (talk) 18:48, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
I see. On Unix-like terminology is: paging = swapping + disk_IO_caching --Kubanczyk (talk) 18:59, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Neologism template

Responded! Thanks. asenine t/c 13:21, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for helping out with the goregrind article. Kameejl (Talk) 14:59, 24 April 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Transwiki notes

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[edit] Move/copy to gaming wiki

Moved this conversation to Template talk:Copy to gaming wiki --Kubanczyk (talk) 16:36, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Types of companies

Please would you explain why you removed Industrial and Provident Society from Category:Types of companies? You replaced that with Category:Business organizations which I don't think is appropriate at all. - Fayenatic (talk) 08:42, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

My mistake! --Kubanczyk (talk) 09:54, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Transwiki template

If you don't think {{Transwiki}} should be used, perhaps you should take it to TFD. Personally I think it's much more useful that a generic prod, seeing as how WP:DICT has already been outlined and enforced through the copying process itself. Thoughts? --Closedmouth (talk) 15:40, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

What is so useful about it, comparing to {{prod}}? Am I missing something? It seems much less automated, less informative and less maintained than {{prod}}. A huge disadvantage is that it provides "transwikied" as a reason for deletion which is wrong. This is not a criterium for deleting article. An article may be deleted because it cannot be expanded beyond dictionary definition, or is original research, is unencyclopedic, etc. But completion of transwiki is not an argument for deletion. So, why use two separate templates if one is sufficient? TfD is not an option, as I don't want to break existing articles. --Kubanczyk (talk) 16:01, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia template help and guideline pages

Hi Kubanczyk! I saw today that you are doing lots of good clean-up and fixes to template related "Wikipedia:" pages. Thanks a lot! It is very much needed!

I also saw that you asked about some things over at Wikipedia talk:Navigational templates#Right-side templates to which I had the answer. Since you are probably also fixing such pages I am not watching, feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you need a second opinion on something. That is, link me to the public discussion on a "Wikipedia talk:" page. I prefer public discussions since then we can sometimes get more input from other editors and our conclusions will be available for future editors of those pages.

--David Göthberg (talk) 23:07, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Great, nice to meet you. I'll notify you as often as my weak memory allows. --Kubanczyk (talk) 08:13, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] CENT conclusions

I've stumbled upon Wikipedia:Centralized discussion/Conclusions, and my first thought was to make it {{historical}}. But, I've noticed you are a single person still updating it, so I would like to ask: why? Conclusions will be always looked upon on the original talk pages anyway, nobody will search in a such well-hidden place. --Kubanczyk (talk) 19:19, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Well, the page is there more with the intention of having a link to the old pages that have been taken off {{cent}}. It doesn't particularly need to include conclusions, but if someone wants to make a new centralized discussion topic and can see that a previous discussion of the same topic failed, they might be able to save their time. Stifle (talk) 10:26, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
I had no idea the Conclusions page existed. It seems like a good idea! EdJohnston (talk) 14:30, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
It seems obvious that when anyone adds anything to WP:CENT they first should check the Talk page and archives, it is unlikely that they look at Conclusions page because (a) hard to find (b) the conclusions can be safely assumed as outdated, because no synchronization is kept with the primary source. If you insist on keeping it for archival reasons, I would suggest naming it Archive instead of Conclusions. This would be the obvious name. --Kubanczyk (talk) 11:43, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
Just my personal observation, but the postings on CENT often appear to be well-intentioned but a waste of time, since these discussions are often long and inconclusive. Having a 'scoresheet' that shows that some of them have a good outcome might be a positive thing. EdJohnston (talk) 16:59, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
I think I can agree with that, Ed. Kubanczyk, feel free to move the page or nominate it for MFD. Stifle (talk) 09:34, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Reverting edits

On User talk:Bobo192, Kubanczyk said:
Hi, when reverting vandalism could you mark edit as non-minor? This helps, because some users configure watchlists to filter minor edits. Nevertheless, you are doing a good job here - thanks.


Hi there. I'm afraid if I directly use the revert link, it automatically marks my edit as minor - there's not much I can do about that save for installing TWINKLE where I can configure a markeditasminor string of some description. Sorry. If there are any problems please let me know and I will attempt to fix them. Bobo. 12:33, 5 June 2008 (UTC)