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130.49.222.251 asked if Bezmer, Ultzindur, Atilkese and Emnetzur were sons of Kubrat. Yes they were. 130.49.222.251 also asked if Balkor was another name for Ultzindur. Again it would seem so. Howeverthe page would benefit from some source references.
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[edit] Contribution 18:24, 10 Oct 2004 212.50.24.194 reverted
Thank you for the input. Please write the article yourself, not by "cut and paste" from internet, it is violation of copyrights. I have to revert the whole input, since I have no time and desire to separate copied phrases from original ones. Mikkalai 16:01, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)
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NB variations of his name include Kurt, Kovrat, Kobrat, Kuvrat, Kubert, Korbat, Qobrat, Kuvarog, Krovat Kurbat and even Bashtu.According to the arabian chronist at Tabary (838/9 - 922/3) the Arabians caled him - Shahriar during the war in Kavkaz mauntain in 648 between Kubrat and Abdurrahman.
- Although seemingly diverse all of these names (except Shahriar which means Great King) are etymologically linked to U-V-[rz]-[tj]-(O). 86.138.184.218 07:30, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] People, stick to facts!
There aren't sufficent facts on the subject and so many of the details can be discussed but still, don't try to fancy and invent a history that never existed! National romanticism has long since gone and now is the time to make history a science that relies on facts. And if you don't speak English, write your version and find somebody to translate it for you! 85.11.148.60 13:08, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
- Amen!86.138.184.218 07:16, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] This paragraph does not scan - could the author please fix
Unlike the Bulgars, who were helped by an allegorical beautiful stag, apparently a people whom the early Magyars felt very closely associated with sought blood but failed because were not familiar with the waters of the area, even so, female hostage taking by these people occurred in the process and the events contributed to the establishment of Danube Bulgaria. Tashkop 02:04, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
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He had a Bulgar mother and an Avar father.[citation needed]
Upon return Kubrat was endorsed by his uncle [citation needed], the Avar khagan, as baltavar [citation needed], and took power over his tribe, the Unogundur Bulgars, from Organa who had acted as regent until then.
Seems like part of a series of weird OR-ish Avar-related edits by the same anon user. "Baltavar" (or rather, bltwr, as far as I remember) is attested only for Volga Bulgaria, once, and God knows what it means. --91.148.159.4 13:29, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
