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[edit] Jethwa
I shifted the Jethwa from under Suryavanshi to Chandravanshi because that is more consistent with their wiki page, which says they are Chandravanshi. Anybody who differs please explain Regards, Rorkadian (talk) 00:32, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Khatris
Khatri, coming from "Khettri" is similar to Chetty (Shetty) a Vaishya caste (merchants). Also Seth is the Gujarati version of Chetty, which is also a Khatri name. I have heard that the original Kshatriyas of India were the Rajputs, Jats, Marathas and the Nairs. Please feel free to comment.220.238.190.95 11:54, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
Response: "The Khatris were the patrons ('yajamansas' or in Punjabi 'jajmani') of the Saraswat Brahmins. [14]" "Khatri is the Punjabi adaptation of Sanskrit word Kshatriya (Hindi: क्षत्रिय, kṣatriya). The Kshatriya are the traditionally members of the Hindu military order. As administrators and rulers, Kshatriya were assigned with protecting the Hindu Dharma, and serving humanity. In course of time, however, as a result of economic and political exigencies, the Khatri also expanded into mercantile occupations. The Khatris, along with the Ahluwalia, Aroras, Lohanas, Soods and Bhatias, are the Kshatriya communities of Punjab.[1][2]" I'd like to add to the reference of khatri being kshatriyas: "the 10 sikh guru's all were khatri's like guru tegbahadur n guru gobindsingh ji. n also general jj sing ahuja (cheif of army) or NC vij the former one. realise that we r the real kshtriyas... raja porus was also a khatri of sabharwal caste ".. this was a quote from khatri discussion group... but now that i added this to the knowledge base on wikipedia..i must say... this is all a intellectual/historical importance only. today, it is not ,race, color, or creed that gives a man and woman his status or place in society..it is his/her work ethic, morality and virtues..thank you
^ Pure nonsense. Is a quote from your discussion group supposed to be an academic source? You have asserted that various shudra peoples of Punjab are of kshatriya status, and to evade the fact that there is no evidence to support your pompous lies you even conceal your own identity.. nice. Thank you for demonstrating typical Punjabi khatri values of deceit and and self-aggrandizing mendacity. You are really a disgrace to Indians. --Zubedar 00:56, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] For all who read between the lines
I am disapointed to see the controversy over "Khatri".Why people dont believe it.If a king is removed from his position, he and his descendants should do something for survival.There isnt any harm Kshatriyas adopting business.After all, all of them will have do something now for their living.It is a fact they are no more ruling community nor they are only fighters.Many persons have rose to place them.It is no wonder, in Punjab they lost their identity as Kshtriyas and adopted "Vaishya" karma for survival.Khatris can not be ignored only because they started business earlier,which is now being done by every other Kshatriya.However if someone has something to prove , He should state with proofs. --Shivbramh 11:53, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
The reason why the claims are not believed is simply because only the truth will stand up, in the course of time. You are fixated on the notion that these people were once legitimate kshatriyas whose ancestry is now lost. However, this assumption is false. You are ignoring the fact that in Punjab, the Chauhan, Parmars and others of the Rajput race are sometimes considered Rajputs, and in places considered Jatts. The Rajputs and Jatts are of similar race. You are also ignoring the evidence about the foreign origin of khatris, i.e. from Afghanistan. The region of Afghanistan they are from, was called Bakhater, and a person from this region was called Bakhatari, which became khatri. They are not of the same race as either Brahmins/Vaishyas, or the kshatriyas of India. Their heritage is different. Now, please show me any evidence at all, supporting the khatris' claims to kshatriya status???
--Zubedar 18:14, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Organization
I can't help but think that this page could be better organized. As is, the bulk of the info are under the "Origin" section, making it very bloated indeed. Here's to hoping some expert would get to work on this. o (talk) 21:24, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
