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[edit] Blanked Page

On 30-Dec, you blanked Kikinda Municipality. Blanking pages is generally considered a bad idea. I've gone ahead and reverted the change. If it was a mistake, that's fine. If you think the redirect is inappropriate, then it should be replaced with a stub or put up for deletion. Thanks. -- JLaTondre 14:54, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image Tagging for Image:Suvaca u Kikindi.jpg

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[edit] Image:Kikinda1.jpg listed for deletion

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[edit] Image:Suvaca u Kikindi.jpg

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[edit] Image talk:Katolicka crkva.jpg

I have responded at Image talk:Katolicka crkva.jpg. —Angr 10:38, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Imena

Članak Kikinda sam pre svega napravio da bude u skladu sa svim ostalim člancima o većim gradovima Srbije. U prvoj rečenici članka treba da budu neke mnogo važnije informacije o gradu i opštini nego što su imena na drugim jezicima koja, da budemo iskreni, uopšte nisu u nekoj široj upotrebi, pa prema tome ne predstavljaju informaciju toliko značajnu da bi je morali staviti u prvu rečenicu (svako ta imena može da nađe tamo gde se nalaze sada i nema razloga da čitaocu u prvoj rečenici nabijamo na nos nevažne informacije). Što se tiče drugih članaka, u svim ostalim člancima o većim gradovima Srbije je ovo pitanje rešeno na isti način, a ako pogledamo i naše okruženje, onda na primer možemo probati da napišemo ćirilična imena za veće hrvatske gradove i to ne u prvu rečenicu u tim člancima već u poslednji pasus, pa se mogu kladiti da neće proći ni jedan jedini dan a da neko ta ćirilična imena ne obriše. Ja ova imena u članku Kikinda nisam obrisao već sam ih stavio na mesto koje odgovara njihovom značaju. PANONIAN (talk) 22:26, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Ne vidim zašto bi članak Kikinda bio napisan po ugledu na članke o gradovima u nekim susednim državama a ne po ugledu na članke o gradovima u Srbiji. A što se tiče te tolerancije, ti koji od nas navodno traže da budemo tolerantni, sami uopšte nisu tolerantni. Možeš na primer na Vikipediji primetiti rad izvesnog mađarskog fotografa koji slika crkve u Vojvodini, i onda u članak o selu u kom su većina Srbi obavezno na prvo mesto stavi sliku katoličke crkve a tek iza nje sliku pravoslavne. Pa jel to tolerancija? O tim takozvanim braniocima tolerancije se može napisati podebela knjiga koja ih prikazuje u malo drugačijem svetlu. Međutim, članci na Vikipediji nemaju nikakve veze sa tolerancijom, već im je cilj da čitaoce informišu o temi, pa samim tim ta imena na drugim jezicima nemaju neku naročitu informativnu ulogu. Takođe ne vidim da je 50% + 1 građana Kikinde potpisalo peticiju da ta imena treba da stoje u prvoj rečenici članka na Vikipediji, a i o toleranciji u samom gradu dovoljno govori činjenica da je gradonačelnik Kikinde iz SRS (a razlog zašto je SRS tako jaka u Vojvodini je upravo natrljavanje ljudima na nos te i takve tolerancije). PANONIAN (talk) 22:56, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
Dakle, ja ne smatram da imam konzervativne ideje (na primer čak podržavam i nezavisno Kosovo ako ćemo već tako pričati), niti smatram da je moj rad ovde ekstremizam. Na primer u opštinama kao što je Senta gde su Mađari većina sigurno ne bih uklonio mađarsko ime iz infoboxa, niti bih u članku o selu Bogojevo gde su opet Mađari većina stavio sliku pravoslavne crkve pre katoličke. Međutim, ako već govorimo o ekstremizmu pojedinih naroda, srpskim ekstremizmom se može nazvati srpska politika prema Kosovu, dok je u slučaju Vojvodine mnogo jači mađarski ekstremizam. Treba svakako primetiti činjenicu da je osoba koja je stavljala ta mađarska imena u prve rečenice u stvari velikomađarski ekstremista koji živi u Budimpešti i iz čijih izmena se može videti da stalno "zeza" članke vezane za Slovačku, Rumuniju ili Vojvodinu, a uzgred je bio već nekoliko puta blokiran zbog svog ponašanja. Sada o relevantnosti samih imena: Vojvodina ima 6 a ne 4 službena jezika, ali Vikipedija je pre svega enciklopedija koja nije dužna da prati službene stavove već naučne principe. Na primer potpuno je jasno da mađarsko ime za gradove Senta ili Čoka ima značaja jer većina stanovnika ovih mesta koristi ta imena, ali relevantnost tih imena u mestima gde ima svega 5-10% Mađara je sa naučnog stanovišta veoma mala. Dakle, ponavljam, ovo treba da bude naučna enciklopedija, a ne politički pamflet o toleranciji. Pored toga, postoji i članak Hungarian exonyms (Vojvodina) gde se nalazi spisak svih mađarskih imena za mesta u Vojvodini, čime je naučna potreba za informacijom o tim imenima potpuno zadovoljena, tako da ne postoji nikakva potreba da ta imena stoje u prvoj rečenici ili u infoboxu članaka o mestima gde ne živi velik broj Mađara (što opet ne znači da ta imena ne možemo pomenuti u drugom delu članka predviđenom za to). A što se tiče toga da li će neko zameriti na to, na Vikipediji ima mađarskih korisnika sa kojima sam do sada imao pozitivna iskustva i koji sigurno neće zameriti zbog toga - a to da li će onaj bolesni velikomađarski ekstremista iz Budimpešte nešto zameriti, to je već njegov lični problem koji se lako može izlečiti kod psihoanalitičara. PANONIAN (talk) 14:22, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
Pa što se tiče gospodina iz Budimpešte, on je sasvim slučajno odabrao Kikindu pored drugih članaka, a ako mu opet tako nešto padne na pamet, male su šanse da će ponovo odabrati Kikindu pored toliko drugih mesta u Vojvodini, Slovačkoj i Transilvaniji, tako da nema razloga za strah da će članak biti vandalizovan. A i inače, bolje da te upozorim da je to najmanji problem koji ćeš imati sa tim člankom, jer ja sam na primer pisao članak o Novom Sadu, onda su drugi ljudi iz Novog Sada počeli to da uređuju, pa su tu nastali svakakvi sukobi oko banalnih stvari, da li slika da bude 300 ili 400 px, da li manje fudbalske klubove pomenuti u članku ili ne, itd. Kada više ljudi iz Kikinde počne to da uređuje, imaćeš i ti takvih problema, a ovo sa imenima je sitnica. PANONIAN (talk) 04:39, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
I samo jedan predlog: pošto ja ne znam puno o poznatim Kikinđanima, trebalo bi u članku kod svakog imena napisati kakve konkretne veze ima sa Kikindom - da li je tu rođen i živeo, da li je tu samo rođen a živeo na drugom mestu ili da li je rođen na drugom mestu a živeo u Kikindi, itd. PANONIAN (talk) 04:42, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] wikiproject

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[edit] University of Pristina

Pogledaj ovu diskusiju [1] i ukljuci se ako mozes. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Andrija.b (talk • contribs) 19:32, 11 February 2007 (UTC).