Talk:Kristin Smart

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[edit] Neutral Point of View

This page is heavily biased in the assumption of guilt of the Paul character. This does not agree with Wikipedia's Neutral Point of View policy. --Nutschig 11:43, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

I added a POV-section template to the section heavily related to the Paul character. I will also work on breaking this page's long paragraphs into more readable ones. Any ideas about how to expand this page? I'll try and get more info from the campus police on this, I'm a first year at Cal Poly. --Nutschig 10:47, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

I'll get to the bottom of the Neutral Point of View. I go back to campus on January 2nd and plan on getting the public report on this incident, so far I have only changed grammatical and the outlandish sentences on this page. Looking back over the past few hundred edits, there is only one unregistered IP who started this page and has been trimming it to their point of view this entire time. It's a dynamic IP, so there is no real way of contacting them besides using this talk page.

I ask whoever wrote this article to let the Wikipedians conform it into the standard Wikipedia format, unbiased and positively objective.+ --Nutschig 05:49, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bad, bad, bad

This article is really, really bad. Besides the really bad fact that it's insinuating the guilt of one of the characters without backing it up with sources, there are all sorts of pointless wikilinks (it's not wikilinking an article to just put brackets around random words), it's not written in an encyclopedic tone, and there's probably too much detail for an encyclopedia article anyway. I tried to start cleaning this up, but I got discouraged after just a few minutes. Hopefully someone else will step up and help out here, and I'll try to get back to it when I can. —Cleared as filed. 22:17, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Date accuracy

From the FBI kidnap site, it says she disappeared on May 25, 1996 at 2 a.m. That date isn't Spring Break (usually in mid-late March at Poly), that was the Friday evening-Saturday morning of Memorial Day weekend that year. The first few paragraphs of the article need fixing to account for that, but I don't know the underlying factual details. E.g. " she had broken up for the spring quarter break and attended a birthday party of a fellow student. " Broken up what, with who, and how is it relavant to events roughly 8 weeks later? I think we all see the article needs a massive re-edit, but who knows what it shoudl really say?-- Bill 18:55, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Civil Case

This statement from the article is problematic:

Kristin's parents, Denise and Stan Smart, took a civil case of wrongful death against Paul Flores in 2005, but dropped it after Flores pleaded the fifth amendment.

That would not prevent them from getting a judgement against him, in fact, it would help. The standard of proof is lower in a civil case. I'm not even sure a person CAN pleade the 5th in civil court. If he was named as defendant, he is compelled to testify and doesn't get to choose not to testify as he would if he were a defendant in a criminal proceeding. In short, this statement needs clarification and a citation. Lisapollison 17:54, 4 October 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Family Guy?

In the article, it says that Tim Davis was in inspiriation for Peter Griffin on "Family Guy" but there is no source or any mention about it on the Family Guy wiki article. Does anyone know if this is true or not? And, if it is indeed true, does it really even belong in this article?--Audee 23:46, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] sonofsusan.com, court, and Wikipedia

According to this article sonofsusan.com's creator was found to be harassing Flores. Including this as a reference or external link could be problematic even though the Flores don't have an article here, we're still expected not to publish or link to personal information information about anyone. Anynobody 05:45, 6 December 2007 (UTC)