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[edit] Engagement

I edited out this random information about her being engaged to someone (which later went on to say, you won't hear about it until he joins WWE in 2008??). Sounds like a Kristal mark making up news. Not true until proven otherwise. 58.165.68.237 22:18, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] theme

does anyone know what her theme music is?? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.77.250.152 (talk) 21:50, 7 December 2006 (UTC).

[edit] Oh, Well

To bad she never did the victory roll, so i am going to have to delete that. And i putting rolling neck snap, and slap, cause she done those a lot. SHE NEVER DID THE VICTORY ROLL!

uh YEAH! she did do a Victory Roll! it was the day Ashley and Michelle McCool made their debut in Smackdown! and Kristal lost by attempting a victory roll but Jillian reversed it into a pin, hellllo! how could you forget Ashleys SD Debut!?!?!

So just because she used it in one match doesn't mean anything. —Preceding unsigned comment added by BIGCANDICEFAN (talk • contribs)

[edit] Place of birth

There is confusion regarding her place of birth. She states on her MySpace profile that she was born in Brooklyn, yet in a Diva Dish article she claims she has never lived there (prior to moving there in recent years) and that she is originally from L.A. Right now, I have to go with her claim that she was born in Brooklyn, even though I'm not certain of which Brooklyn she was referring to. If anybody can find a reliable source, please add it. - Deep Shadow 15:13, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Finishing Moves

I have never heard of the Kristal Krash is this a made up name and move or is it real. If so tell me where she used it. BIGCANDICEFAN 01:53, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Profile on WWE

I just wanted to let you know that Kristal Marshall's profile has been taken down of the Smackdown roster at WWE.com. I don't know why. 69.28.232.144 23:51, 17 October 2007 (UTC) samusek2

It's a rumor,thus far. But I wouldn't be surprised. Rumor is she's been let go by WWE. I guess we'll find out soon. whatever. I'm not affected by this at all. She was pointless,anyway. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.254.121.68 (talk) 22:22, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

After some speculation and vandalism on the article regarding this, I have cleaned it up and removed the links to her WWE profile. I've listed in the lead that she is "best known for her work with World Wrestling Entertainment" but I won't write that she was released, as it is still speculation. For all we know, her profile could have been removed because she is changing brands, much like what happened with Melina Perez when she was kayfabe fired. - Deep Shadow 23:52, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

It would be hilarious if the announcement was never made, and six months from now, we still can't write that she was released because it was never "confirmed". Mshake3 04:46, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
That's true. I would laugh for sure. Has PWInsider made a report on this? I know they aren't considered "reliable" and we can't use the site, but they are better than most of the other "dirtsheets" out there. - Deep Shadow 05:38, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
FTR, yes, they did report it. Heck, a lot of IP edits generally come after reading PWInsider reports. As for the actual article, they said it was quite recent, and that the reason it wasn't announced now (or won't be ever) is because of the nature of her current storyline. As for a reason, they said a reason was thrown out, but it wasn't confirmed. Mshake3 03:45, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

PWInsider.com has announced in the elite section the reason for her release. Some sites are copying it now, and I expect even more to once they announce it in written form on the free site. As for the actual reason, I think it's still speculative, so it wouldn't be appropiate. Mshake3 23:22, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

there were rumors going around that she will be getting moved to raw because she is dating bobby lashley.i guess we'll have to wait and see.SpeedyC1 15:07, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

So you're removing facts, due to possible rumors? Mshake3 14:34, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Sometimes when a profile is taken down. They are not released, but sent down to ohio valley, deep south, or florida championship, for development. Basically being but in the WWE's minor leagues, usually with women to help develop more in ring wrestling skills.Aladdin Zane 16:48, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

And they're doing that in the middle of this giant storyline. Mshake3 18:05, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
Storyline ended with the heart attack. If she hasn't been released she is being moved. WWE has given no info on her as yet though.Aladdin Zane 18:09, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
The storyline would not have ended with a heart attack had she not been released. That is to much of a cliff hanger and WWE would've run with it. She wasn't sent down, she was fired. Bmg916Speak 03:45, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
Profiles are taken off of WWE.com when wresstlers are sent down to Ohio, Deep South and Florida. There is no proof she has been released. Provide a reliable citation for her release or leave it alone til you can.Aladdin Zane 04:23, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
Wrestler's with profiles on WWE.com are for the ones appearing on any of the broadcast TV shows. Just because she is not on TV does not mean she isn't still signed. She has been on her myspace as recently a yesterday. She hasn't posted anything bout being released, neither has the WWE.Aladdin Zane 04:29, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
The WWE isn't going to post anything about releasing someone who just a week earlier involved in a major controversial storyline. She hasn't appeared in either development territory, and on her myspace she posted all but confirming her release. She won't be on TV again in WWE, FCW, or OVW for a long, long time (btw, Deep South isn't and hasn't been a WWE developmental territory for months now), because she was released. 6 months from now when she hasn't shown up in any development territories or on WWE TV are you still going to say she's signed because she didn't appear on TV!? She was released. The wording on the article doesn't even mention a release anyway, it says what she is best known for, and that her profile was taken off of WWE.com, both facts, and nothing is said about a release anyway. I see no reason why we can't leave the article this way until something is completely confirmed by either party. Bmg916Speak 14:03, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
Also, by your logic, does this mean Rob Van Dam was merely sent for more training in the developmental territories? They never announced he left the company and quietly removed his profile from WWE.com, just as is the case here. Bmg916Speak 16:13, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

To be fair, it was fairly well known that Van Dam's contract was ending in June, and he later confirmed in radio interviews that he was no longer under contract. Still though, this is why we need to allow select "dirtsites" as sources. Mshake3 17:52, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Okay you're clutching at straws here. Kristal has been released. All the top wrestling sites are reporting it, yes the Torrie release rumours turned out to be fake but how long was it before they were found as false? About a day. Kristal's profile has been removed and deleted from wwe.com for well over a week now. Plus she is not mentioned on Smackdown anymore, infact the whole Kristal/Teddy Long storyline has barely been mentioned on Smackdown the past couple of weeks. If they were going to follow up on it, then they would've done so by now. So it's likely that the whole angle has dropped and Vickie is probably going to be the GM until they can find a way to write Teddy back into the storyline or just find him a new angle all together.

Also if you go too her website, (search Kristal Marshall on google with .net), the person who runs the site says he received an email from Kristal saying she will issue a statement on her release soon. The article seems real as why would the owner/fan try to pretend Kristal was released?

All signs point to her being released, as for no announcement on wwe.com, I'm not sure on that, it's probably because of the storyline with Teddy and it wouldn't make much sense either. Until then consider her release to be true. 29 October 2007. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.143.143.108 (talk) 13:28, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Rob van damn's contract expired so wwe didn't have to coment on anything about him being gone. also if you go to kristal's web site or her myspace page there is no mention of her release.why do you guys have such a had time with waiting and seeing what happens next.SpeedyC1 13:54, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Because it's ridiculous to sit and wait forever for someone to come back to TV when they're not because they are no longer employed by the company. Bmg916Speak 13:56, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

unless the world is going to end any minute.we should wait and see.SpeedyC1 14:03, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm not waiting until the end of time. Sorry. Bmg916Speak 14:07, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

There is, go to http://www.kristal-marshall.net/ and there's an email from Kristal to the site owner with evidence on her release. Until someone says otherwise, she has likely been released but not 100% confirmed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.143.121.176 (talk) 16:55, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

that is not even her official site. how can we belive what somegus says.SpeedyC1 17:59, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

that is actually her official site, run by the same person who does ken kennedy's official site. Bmg916Speak 18:03, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

just because some guy says he knows kristal doesn't mean that he does. what if i said that i knew bobby lashley. would you belive me?SpeedyC1 18:24, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Read the disclaimer on the site. If you had one of those for Bobby Lashley, and it turns out you didn't run the website with his consent, etc. I could sue you, as could Bobby Lashley as I'm sure he wouldn't want an "official site" run without his consent, and I don't think you would want to run the risk of that, just as I'm sure this person running her official site isn't willing to do that either. So yes, I would believe you if you ran a website with a legal disclaimer such as that. Bmg916Speak 18:29, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Exactly, also a fan of Kristal won't be trying to pretend she was released, a fan of hers would be denying her release is true, not supporting it. Face it, all signs say she has been let go. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.207.102.233 (talk) 21:45, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Also just to add, if you go to JR's website, he says something about Kristal in blog about don't he doesn't know if she finished with the business or gonna try it again. That pretty much confirms it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.189.254.26 (talk) 13:51, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Actually it does NOT confirm it. It clearly states he does not know if she is thru or not.Aladdin Zane 14:19, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Also to those that think kristal-marshall.net is her official site If you go to the site, it provides a link to her myspace page, that myspace page says it is her official myspace page and then states if you want to go to her official website to click the image, when you click the image it does NOT go back to the original site, It goes to a different site. Thus meaning if you truly believe 'kristal-marshall.net', then you believe the myspace page it provides, and if you believe the myspace page it proves the original one kristal-marshall.net is in fact NOT her OFFICIAL site. With that being said there is no proof which is real, so you can't believe any of them.Aladdin Zane 14:22, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Oh this is funny. WWE will not say anything. We can't trust her official website, and we can't trust myspace. I was right, this article will be revert warring for the next six months because we'll never know for sure. Mshake3 14:57, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

BTW, that site now says the myspace is fake. So there is no "link" to the fake site. Mshake3 14:58, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

That just happened today. After I started disproving the site as her official site. Bottom line is, if it ever was her official site they would have known if it was her Official myspace page or NOT. The fact that they are now trying to disassociate itself with the MYSPACE page only goes to further prove the point that it is NOT her offical site. Because her friends on myspace are actual other myspace pages of other WWE stars. So once again this just goes to further prove kristal-marshall.net was never her official site. Check my logs back and forth with BMG on our talk pages then on the one and on WWE roster talk pages. They only posted that on the site After I disproved the site being real. So check my contribs to see every where i posted it. You will see the time stamps and know that this person is trying to cover their tracks.Aladdin Zane 15:14, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
That's all fine and dandy, but seeing as nothing was actual said on the myspace, the fact that it's a fact doesn't mean anything. Sure that makes the site a bit more questionable, but to now say the website isn't reliable is something a fan who thinks she still works for WWE would say. Mshake3 15:24, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Official website or not argument aside, we can't agree on whether we have confirmation she was released or not. This is why the proposed compromise at the WWE roster talk page was brought to the table. I would like to request we comment on said compromise as opposed to whether or not she was released and whether or not we have proof. These arguments are exactly why the compromise was put together by people on both sides of the argument. So, if we can, let's stick to commenting on that instead of continuing the arguments for definitely one side or the other, thanks! Bmg916Speak 15:36, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Mshake3 that site isn't realiable anyway because it is admittedly a site of personal researchAladdin Zane 15:44, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Either way, even though it's not been 100% confirmed, there is more to suggest she has been released then she hasn't. Her profile is STILL removed from WWE.com. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.206.196.226 (talk) 20:24, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Release of Kristal

For those of you that know I have fought for the neutrality of this page during the questionable stage that has been going on surrounding her release. Well she finally released a small statement on her myspace page, confirming her release, but stating no reason yet. Btw also in doing this it has now confirmed the website I called into question, [1] is the FAKE site she has called into question herself. As she links what she calls her official website thru her myspace. Also i will now reinstate the word "best" in front of the word "known" in the opening since she has now confirmed release. Bare in mind though myspace cannot be used as a citation.Aladdin Zane 18:11, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Can someone please post the statement here or say what it said? I can't seem to access it on her Myspace page. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.143.62.147 (talk) 10:18, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WTFinishers?

Where in the hell did those finishers come from? They are obviously fake and need to be deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.108.249.169 (talk) 07:33, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Errors

I have noticed that there are quite a few spelling errors in this article, especially in the paragraph which says about her release. 'Despite' is spelt as 'dispite' and 'fair' is spelt as 'fare' Lee 22:20, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pregnancy?

Is there a more reputable source for this claim? I do not want to revert it without knowing if there is indeed fact behind it. Rgoodermote  01:27, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

The only sources currently out there are dirt sheet websites, which are completely un-reliable. King iMatthew 2008 01:29, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

what you call dirt sheet are reliable.they give lots of behind the sceene info.CMJMEM (talk) 01:53, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

The only reason I put this info on her page and Bobby's was because she has a blog that says "Good news". Since her blogs are private, you can't see it unless you're her friend but I thought it indicated something.I could be wrong.If I'm wrong, sorry for the false info.(MgTurtle (talk) 01:55, 18 May 2008 (UTC))

They are not reliable, because the info they give is mostly false, and just strictly rumours. King iMatthew 2008 02:02, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

if they report what has been said in an interview how is that a rumor?CMJMEM (talk) 02:08, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

There is no reliable source for the interview. King iMatthew 2008 02:19, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
When news arrives from a more official and reputable media source then I think it should be added. If it is true...watch CNN. They will be the first to yip about it. Rgoodermote  03:08, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

lol cnn only covers wrestling when bad thing happen in wrestling.CMJMEM (talk) 04:51, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

why is it that you guys belived the dirt sites when she was released but now you don't? you can't have it both ways.CMJMEM (talk) 05:02, 18 May 2008 (UTC)