Talk:Kris
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I note the comment of the following "Functionally, the kris is not a slashing weapon like a bowie knife or other fighting knife, but rather a stabbing instrument. The kris was mostly out-matched against anything other than another kris."
In Malay weapon, there are a lot of long distance weapon such as lembing, tombak, campak buang, as well as long handle weapon such as parang, golok, lading, pedang, etc. However, keris is favoured above others due to the fighting technique that was used. Malay fighting technique or silat stress on close combat which make short handle trusting weapon more effective. A slashing weapon would take time for a return slash. The short opening is all that is needed by someone with keris to move in for a single stab and then quickly move out. Imagine slashing a sword and receiving a keris stab at your neck.
Due to the weavy shape or "luk", damage done is out of propotion to the size of wounded. It cut maximum damage on it's way in and out, especially it is twisted on being pulled. In addition, it is not abnormal for the keris to be slightly rusted due to wet tropical climate, ensuring fatal infection within hours of untreated injury.
The shape of the hilt ensure a lot of thrusting power into the blade, compared to other types of stabbing weapon (except for ice pick). The hilt rest right in the middle of the palm confortably. One have to held the keris to know this.Yosri 11:36, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
i am a Javanese, and here are my very limited knowledge regarding the keris :
keris are prized possessions not unlike Katana, and the owner of the keris make sure their keris is always at good shape, so it's unlikely that a keris will be found rusty.
furthermore, keris is believed to have the will of its own, so when people want to have a keris, the term used is not 'trading', but 'matchmaking', as if the person is going to marry the keris. further reference on this matter is required, though.
some people believe that the keris has its own will because a djinn is dwelling inside it.
furthermore, in Muslim majority Java, believing in the power of keris might be regarded as a shirk. however, keris is an inseparable part of Javanese culture, and possessing a keris while not believing in its power is fine. 202.162.35.132 05:32, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
article needs a picture of a keris
[edit] Image
As the contributor above says, the article does need a picture of a kris. However, there does appear to be one - Keris Semenanjung monument.gif - but it's not displaying properly. I don't know why. Is it because it's a GIF? --A bit iffy 11:29, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
- The image is 1 pixel by 1 pixel and 43 bytes...a little small. I've left a message on the contributor's talk page asking for a replacement. RJFJR 15:43, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
There is a picture of a kris on the German page. Doesn't look fearsome, though :-). How about adding something about keris pusaka?
[edit] 1911 EB
The following is from the Malay People article in the 1911 Encyclopaedia Brittannica:
The typical fighting costume of the Malay is a sleeveless jacket with texts from the Koran written upon it, short tight drawers reaching to the middle of the thigh, and the sarong is then bound tightly around the waist, leaving the hilt of the dagger worn in the girdle exposed to view. The principal weapon of the Malays is the kris, a short dagger with a small wooden or ivory handle, of which there are many varieties. The blade of a kris may either be wavy or straight, but if wavy the number of waves must always be uneven in number. The kris most prized by the Malays are those of Bugis (Celebes) manufacture, and of these the kind called tuasek are of the greatest value. Besides the short kris, the Malays use long straight kris with very narrow blades, shorter straight kris of the same form, short broad swords called sundang, long swords of ordinary pattern called pedang, somewhat shorter swords curved like scimitars with curiously carved handles called chenangkas, and short stabbing daggers called tumbok lade. The principal tools of the Malays are the parang or glok, a heavy knife used in the jungle, without which no peasant ever stirs abroad from his house, the beliong or native axe, and the pisau raut, which is used for scraping rattan.
--Ancheta Wis 10:47, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Picture
A picture of a kris would be a fantastic addition to this page. Anyone out there have one that they would mind photographing? --Roman à clef 21:51, 17 July 2006 (UTC) Done, and tag removed.FelixFelix talk 16:44, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
