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[edit] Gneisenau/Scharnhorst classification dispute

Please note that this has been debated before: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gneisenau_class_battlecruiser The outcome seems to be that they are to be classified as battlecruisers in the english wikipedia as they are called such in German battlecruiser Scharnhorst and German battlecruiser Gneisenau. (with a note about the KM classification as battleships). --Sus scrofa 13:33, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Uboat statistics

As there is a disagreement as to the percentage of KM submarines destroyed during the war some source for this statistic has to be found. It's also a matter of clarifying what's meant with "destroyed": does this number include the subs scuttled at the end of the war, is the percentage based on the total number of subs built or on the total number of subs commissioned and so on. --Sus scrofa 13:33, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

This website [1] provides stats of losses, per year. Also quotes 1154 u-boats availble during the war (others not commissioned are excluded). Destroyed percentage comes to about 67% I believe. Folks at 137 16:50, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

OK, I'm counting 692 subs lost in combat (incl. 4 given to Japan at the end of the war) and 397 subs that were surrendered or scuttled by their own crew at the end of the war, 37 subs that were retired during the war and 25 lost by fratricide or accidents. 692 / 1154 = ~60 %. So it's a matter of defining "destroyed" I guess. The scuttled subs were destroyed but not in combat so I think 60 % is the correct figure.--Sus scrofa 18:33, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Instead of 'destroyed', how about a more precise characterization? 'Sunk in action' seems like the interesting number; obviously, any boats left at the end of the war were surrendered or scuttled.
—wwoods 21:30, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

How's this: "During World War II, about 60% of all U-boats commissioned were lost in action; 28,000 of the 40,000 U-boat crewmen were killed during the war and 8,000 were captured."? And then maybe a note about the scuttling/surrendering at the end of the war. --Sus scrofa 22:59, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Linkspammer

Just to say that the linkspammer active here has been here before, and got a block of several days. I recommend another one if he starts again. A range block from about 180 to 200 in the third number worked. DJ Clayworth 13:08, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Flag

Note that the Iron Cross on the flag is deliberately set to the left as per Flags of the World. More info on image desc. page.

Greentubing 23:55, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hitler inspecting crew.

"Hitler inspecting Kriegsmarine units at the height of the war." This cannot be true. The Kriegsmarine officer with Hitler is Ernst Lindeman, captain of battleship Bismarck. The picture was taken during Hitler's visit to the battleship in 1941. --Kurt Leyman 13:19, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Major ports/naval bases?

The article omits this important information. What were the major ports, submarine bases, etc.? --KJK::Hyperion 04:59, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Updates to External Links

I have replaced the explicit External Links with {{cite web}} templates ... I used the <title> from the web pages for the title= tags ... there were two links to the same website (www.german-navy.de), so I removed one of them. --72.75.126.37 00:45, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Adolf Hitler leaving a Kriegsmarine battleship together with Grand Admiral Erich Raeder."

Excuse me, but isn't the Admiral with Hitler actually Otto Ciliax? Regards, --Kurt Leyman 16:44, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Command structure

Added a section on this but it needs some expansion, if anyone has info. I've avoided adding names, as it would become a list. Also the OKM article badly needs serious attention as to its function and organisation - mainly a description of the OKM flag at present. Folks at 137 19:48, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Pt-2745-75dpi.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 22:11, 5 December 2007 (UTC)