User talk:Kraken7

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[edit] Sockpuppetry case

You have been accused of sockpuppetry. Please refer to Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Kraken7 for evidence. Please make sure you make yourself familiar with notes for the suspect before editing the evidence page. BusterD 15:55, 6 October 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Please consider contributing to this page

You certainly have the references and know this material. Perhaps together we can build some consensus on this complex and strongly held issue. BusterD 15:06, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Hang on, wasn't it you who accused me of sockpuppetry? How can consensus be built when one of the parties stands accused of systematic vandalism? Kraken7 23:00, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
And I still maintain my assertion, though from the beginning I've always allowed that I might be wrong about the suspect. That being said, there exists a dispute about the name of the war, and you have strong and well-founded arguments for "Mexican War." The new page provides a location where your advocacy can have a positive impact. Please consider using your knowledge and dedication to this issue in a constructive way. BusterD 23:36, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Let me get this straight: You've publicly accused me of being a vandal and "still maintain" that accusation over my unequivocal denial, which means I'm not only a vandal, but also a liar. Yet, now you offer to work with me to "build some consensus." I hope you'll forgive me if I find your offer less than sincere. Kraken7 21:08, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
Pretty much, that's the situation as I see it too. From my point of view, you're either not guilty of the accusation, in which case I should offer some meaningful olive branch (hence proposing working together to create an article which honors your position), or you are guilty of the charge I've leveled, in which case the scrutiny the sockpuppet case has brought to bear will block the offending account (and your position is less likely to be honored). In either case, you have demonstrated you have understanding and passion for this specific content beyond mine, and I'd like to hope the passion finds itself on the page as opposed to the ephemeral motion of talkspace and edit war. Either I'll apologize if I'm wrong, or I won't need to give a fig about you. I've acted in good faith thus far, and I'm continuing to do so in this offer.
It's put up or shut up time my new friend. Either demonstrate contribution to the pedia in a meaningful way by supporting your position in pagespace, or don't. Prove me wrong by your actions. I dare you. BusterD 01:17, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
I have nothing to prove to you or anyone else. You falsely accuse me of being a vandal and a liar. You continue to imply that I am guilty as charged even after the Wikipedia gods find insufficient evidence to support that charge. You talk about offering "some meaningful olive branch" yet refuse to actually do so. I find your actions to date inconsistent with your protestations of having "acted in good faith thus far." Kraken7 01:40, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Response

First, please sign your talk page posts with ~~~~. Generally, dab pages don't carry talk pages - if you think that there is no basis for the dab, nominate it at WP:AFD. Cheers. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 19:57, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

  • Yes, you got around to signing it while I was responding. As for how much information is placed in the deletion notices, it's really a matter of discretion. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 20:04, 30 January 2008 (UTC)