Talk:Kragehul I

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[edit] Lance, spear or javelin?

I don't understand which kind of pole weapon was the Kragehul I. It says it is a lance but connects to the javelin page. Spear is also mentioned. There is some confusion with this articles but this is the military history regular denotation: Lance is a long thrust pole weapon wielded by cavalry. Pike is the same but for cavalry. Javelin is a missile pole weapon hurled at an enemy. Spear has more then one meaning. First it comes for the type of pole weapon with a shaft and a sharpening point, i.e. all of the above but not halberd, falx, bec de corbin, etc.. Spear can also mean a medium size thrusting weapon, i.e. like the pike but shorter, like the Doru of the hoplit phalanx. Finally spear can mean a pole weapon which is used both for thrusting and throwing, like the ancient spears. So what kind of pole weapon was the Kragehul I? Nik Sage ^{(talk/contrib)} 04:49, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

obviously not a jousting lance. "lance" has more than one meaning too, and in the context of antiquity, it of course refers to a lancea, that is, a weapon that you, well, lance. dab (𒁳) 09:34, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

A lance in the modern meaning is a thrusting pole weapon. Lancea was actually a javelin not a lance. Etymology can sometimes be rather confusing. Javelin is speer in German but spear is stange. Lance in French means spear and lance. We use the common meaning in English and as that Lance is a long thrusting weapon wielded by cavalry, Javelin is a missile weapon and spear can sometimes refer to a medium size thrusting weapon or for a pole weapon used for throwing and thrusting. So what is the typology of this weapon? Nik Sage ^{(talk/contrib)} 15:16, 6 February 2007 (UTC)