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Francis Ford Coppola's was also contending for the film's rights, as it had been funded through his American Zoetrope studio.

Coppola himself was contending for copyright, or his studio was? Koyaanis Qatsi 14:20 May 2, 2003 (UTC)

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Anyone else think there are some similarities between Glass's music for Koyaanisqatsi and elements of Bedrich Smetana's Ma Vlast? In particular, Pruitt Igoe reminds me strongly of the beginning of the fourth part, From Bohemia's Forests and Fields. Another part of Koyaanisqatsi (though I forget which), is also reminiscent of the fifth part of Ma Vlast (Tàbor), with the repeated single note motif having the same rhythm and sound to it. Maybe a musicologist or someone who can put both pieces back to back to make a comparison (sadly my CD of Koyyanisqatsi got badly scratched and won't play) could either confirm this or say it's a load of hogwash! Either way I don't mind but for me the resemblance is there. What it might mean I don't know. GRAHAMUK 05:37, 21 Aug 2003 (UTC)

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Mmmmh. I think (for the reader's benefit) the trilogy could have a single article and redirects from the three. Something like Qatsi trilogy and the three pages (Koyaanis, Powa and Naqoy) going there? Pfortuny 18:49, 22 Oct 2003 (UTC)

That would perhaps be confusing, since Koyaanisqatsi, Powaqqatsi, and Naqö`yqatsi are not only the titles of the movies, but are concepts important to Hopi culture which are difficult to translate into English (thus experts use those terms rather than English translations). "qatsi" simply means "life", whereas, for example, "naqö`y" means "war", so from an international point of view that isn't considerate of Hopi-speaking Wikipedians as it could lead to confusion, and until now Wikipedia practice (not sure if our policy says so) has been to use full movie names in article titles.

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I saw a short movie called Chrono on TV. It has the same style as Koyaanisqatsi. Are these two movies related?

Its director, Ron Fricke (also known for the similar movie, "Baraka"), takes inspiration from Koyaanisqatsi, et al, and finds new ways of doing similar things, but I don't believe that he is connected with the makers of Koyaanisqatsi. 24.19.93.104 04:15, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Actually, Ron Fricke was the cinematographer on Koyaanisqatsi before he went on to make Chrono and Baraka.

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In the article, the movie is called a "documentary movie". Where exactly would the work would be factual? I'd call is a "collage". Pilatus 00:09, 21 Nov 2004 (UTC)

How exactly are you arguing that the movie is not factual? It's footage without commentary. Seems more likely to be factual than most documentaries I can think of. Koyaanis Qatsi 03:39, 21 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Contents 1 Music Clip 2 The Strokes 3 Documentary? 4 longest shot? 5 Producer 6 Fair use rationale for Image:Koyaanisqatsi album2.jpg 7 Fair use rationale for Image:Koyaanisqatsi album1.jpg 8 Screenshot 9 WikiProject class rating

[edit] Music Clip

While the article is in need of just more in terms of information, I think the article is wholly incomplete with out a sound clip from the musical score. Anyone wanna contribute? I'm No Parking and I approved this message 22:32, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Strokes

I wanted to add a section under "Influence", referring to the video for Hard To Explain by The Strokes. I've often considered that this video must have been very heavily inspired by Koyaanisqatsi, as it is very similar both in the way it's made and in the tone of its imagery.

After a Google search, however, I found reference to the fact that the clips used in the video are in fact from Koyaanisqatsi itself, rather than simply inspired by it. As the video is directed by none other than Roman Coppola, it's not a huge stretch to believe this, although the fact that I found it referenced no more than a couple of times within the first few pages of search results has left me hesitant about putting it in the Wiki entry as fact.

Can anyone with better knowledge of/access to the film and the video in question confirm whether or not the clips used are in fact from the film? That way a comment can be added either way.

Seb Patrick 16:10, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

There's no "Spoilers End Here" tag. --711groove 02:31, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Certainly not all of the clips are from Koyaanisqatsi. Watching the Strokes video, I notice they use at least three pieces of footage that are also featured in this movie: Ground-level close shot of the Titan boosters firing, a vertical pan across several floors of criss-crossing escalators at some kind of mall, and the dance club with the colorful flashing floor tiles. Hope this helps. 00:24, 18 October 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.79.148.26 (talk)

[edit] Documentary?

Funny the powers that be at wikipedia choose to call it a documentary - its a wildly manipulative selection of pictures and sound. Its art, but its not a documentary. IceHunter 22:13, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

The real funny thing is that the "power that be" is you. If you think it should be changed, you can change it, or discuss it here. If you wish to discuss it, I think a definition of what a documentary is would be a good place to start. I think that Koyaanisqatsi actually fits one of the definitions given at documentary film: "creative treatment of actuality". What definition are you using that makes you conclude that Koyaaniqatsi fails to be a documentary? Cheers, Doctormatt 22:27, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Documentaries are never impartial; some seem that way, but all films have a subtle (or not so subtle, or even unintentional) message for the viewer. The notion that documentaries must be impartial is odd to say the least.

74.98.232.171 06:56, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] longest shot?

The sequence entitled "Vessels" contains the film's longest single take: a three minute and thirty-two second long shot of two United Airlines commercial passenger Boeing 747s taxiing on a runway. "Vessels" also contains shots of traffic patterns on the Los Angeles freeway and a shot of a large parking lot. This is followed with stock footage of tanks lined up in rows and a B-1 Lancer military aircraft.

Not really true. Strictly speaking many of the time lapse shots later in the movie were from takes with durations of several hours; yet, after being sped up, they only lasted on screen for fractions of a minute. Perhaps this could be rewritten to emphasize this.

Perhaps you are right. Feel free to edit the article. Cheers, Doctormatt 05:21, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Producer

Acording to IMDb Coppolla is only the "executive producer", so I'm going to edit the infobox appropriately. It ties in with the info on my ancient old VHS copy. I'll also mention the origin of the "FFC Presents..." credit, which I'm surprised wasn't already in here. --DeLarge 13:42, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Koyaanisqatsi album2.jpg

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Koyaanisqatsi album1.jpg

Image:Koyaanisqatsi album1.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

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[edit] Screenshot

The screenshot is not very representative of the film; I am looking for a better one. C.anguschandler 06:58, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

I think it's ok. But if you can't stand it try http://www.spiritofbaraka.com. Drewcifer3000 08:04, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject class rating

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