User:KoshVorlon/Bot

[edit] User:Laughing Man

If you believe an image is a copyright violation, nominate that image for review as you did on Wikipedia:Copyright problems/2007 August 22/Images. However, do not nominate a userpage or article for deletion because a potentially copyrighted image exists on that page. - auburnpilot talk 14:51, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

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message on my talk page

I reverted it because that template is not applied according to guidelines as you say. The image page should be tagged as a copyright violation if you believe it to be a violation. The userpage of the editor who uploaded the image should not. Please do not re-add the speedy deletion template. - auburnpilot talk 16:16, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Reply

My bad --- it is a copyright violation so I used the {copyvio}. I've changed the tag to explicity be an image violation tag. Thanks for the good catch! KoshVorlon

17:00, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Laughing Man.png

Please stop tagging this image as a copyright violation unless you can provide an external link to where the copyrighted images exists and/or was taken from. Administrators must have a way to confirm your claims, and you have not provided such a source for confirmation. This is becoming disruptive. - auburnpilot talk 15:43, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Also, please do not upload images on top of other images, as you did on Image:Bush.jpg. When uploading images, please choose a name that is not already taken. - auburnpilot talk 15:56, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Laughing Man

Auburnpilot, I've stated where the image comes from, therefore it's not disruptive. His image is a copyright violation and I will tag it as such. Additionally, per policy, websites are not considered reliable resources, as such, if I were to undertake your suggestion, it would create a quandry. Any Anime fan would recognize the image tagged as a copyright violation. Please allow the admins to handle this. It's been brought to their attention already. Incidentally, I haven't checked to see if the template on the image has been reverted yet. If it's been reverted I will place the appopriate template on it. Again, please let the admins handle this, ok ? It's been brought to their attention and I've seen Laughing_Man's assertion that he created the logo himself based on the logo in the series. I've commented there as well. Thank you KoshVorlon

16:11, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

As far as "letting the admins handle this", please take note that I am an admin. When placing the tag on the image and Laughing Man's user page, you did not note where the image could be confirmed as a copyright violation. We cannot simply take your word for it, and must be able to confirm that such a violation is taking place. Also, in response to your message on my talk page, my action regarding Image:Bush.jpg was not to upload an image on top of another, but to fix the mess you created by doing so. Further, please realize you have failed to provide any source and license information for the image you uploaded, Image:Bush1.jpg. The image is not likely free, and fair use images may not be used outside of articles. In other words, it needs to be removed from the templates you've created regarding Bush's impeachment.

One last note, please do not alter other user's signatures, as you did to my signatures on this page. Such edits are completely unacceptable and may be seen as vandalism. I understand you are just starting to find your way around Wikipedia, but these type edits are not helpful. - auburnpilot talk 04:22, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bush image

What ??? I did state where I got the Bush image from in the text and tagged it as "Fair Use". I didn't create it, so a GDFL-self would be inappropriate. Also, it fits the criteria mentioned in Wikipedia:Fair_use#Acceptable_images I stated in the file itself that it is a screencapture from a satelite feed (FTA satelite). NO special subscription was / is necessary to recieve that image. It's not doctored up, it's really Pres Bush flipping off the camera. I'm not sure what your'e saying is missing. Again, I stated where I got it from in the file and tagged it as fair-use per the above criteria. KoshVorlon
".. We are ALL Kosh..."
12:21, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

WP:FAIR use policy requirement #9: "Restrictions on location. Non-free content is only allowed in articles (not disambiguation pages), and only in the article namespace." A fair use image must have a proper license tag, source information such as the publisher and copyright owner, and a detailed fair use rationale for each use. The image had been tagged for over 48 hours, as required by policy, and has since been deleted. - auburnpilot talk 16:45, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Further, do not re-add fair use images to templates and userpages that I have removed them from. You may not use fair use images outside of article space. This is policy. - auburnpilot talk 17:08, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pilot

Pilot, the image is FAIR USE as defined per policy:

[edit] Acceptable images Some copyrighted images may be used on Wikipedia, providing they meet both the legal criteria for fair use, and Wikipedia's own guidelines for non-free content. Copyrighted images that reasonably can be replaced by free/libre images are not suitable for Wikipedia.

Cover art: Cover art from various items, for identification only in the context of critical commentary of that item (not for identification without critical commentary). Team and corporate logos: For identification. See Wikipedia:Logos. Stamps and currency: For identification of the stamp or currency, not its subject. Other promotional material: Posters, programs, billboards, ads. For critical commentary. Film and television screen shots: For critical commentary and discussion of the cinema and television. Screenshots from software products: For critical commentary. Paintings and other works of visual art: For critical commentary, including images illustrative of a particular technique or school. Images with iconic status or historical importance: As subjects of commentary

The image is tagged as such in the image gallery. I am linking to the same image to create a theme for this page in keeping with my name. More importantly, it's not "ON" my page - it's on Wiki's "COMMON" page. Therefore, there is no valid reason to remove it. IF the image was ON my page, sure, that's a no-brainer, but it wasn't. For the moment, I will not restore the template that generated that image untill I hear back from you. Thanks KoshVorlon
".. We are ALL Kosh..."
17:28, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

All of the images I removed (Image:B5 kosh01b.jpg, Image:Babylon5 02.jpg, and Image:SuSE logo.svg) are hosted on the English Wikipedia, and not Wikipedia Commons. All of the images are uploaded under the terms of fair use, and images uploaded under a claim of fair use may not be used anywhere except within articles. While it is acceptable to upload fair use images, as explained in the section you quote above, it is not acceptable to use those images outside of the article namespace. As for your claim that the images were not being used on your page, take a look here, here, and here, for the pages that included the fair use images within your userpace. - auburnpilot talk 17:40, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Pilot, You didn't read my reply. I said the images are not "ON" my webpage. I placed a link to the image

(i.e a template or a link to the image "[[Image:xxx.jpg] ") the image itself exists in wikipedias "Image" area (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Images:). So what you removed was the link the image, not the image itself. You are in effect vandalizing this userpage. Further you deleted bush1.jpg without cause, it's a screenshot and therefore fair use - no template was necessary and I DID place that data along with the image when I uploaded it. Stop vandalizing this webpage. KoshVorlon
".. We are ALL Kosh..."
17:55, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

At this point, I don't know if we're having a problem due to a language barrier or if you just don't understand what I'm saying. Linking to an image, adding it to your userpage, or however you wish to say it, is unacceptable and against policy if it is a fair use image. The image is not on commons and the "image" namespace you refer to is simply where the image resides when uploaded. If you feel I have abused my tools as an administrator, please leave a note on the admin intervention board and hopefully they'll respond. However, I can't explain this any differently than I already have. You may not use fair use images in your userspace, template space, or any other page on Wikipedia that is not an article. - auburnpilot talk 18:10, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Auburn - No I don't think you're abusing your powers. I did get a bit hot under the collar with my last note. I'm a native english speaker, so there's no issue with my not understanding english. I guess my issue is, the policy states that a non-free image cannot be "ON" my website. I agree it says that. My understanding of wikipedia is that calling an image enclosed in double "brackets" "[ [ " is, in essence, creating a link to that image, as the image itself is saved in a different area other than this userpage. If that's true, the image is not on this userpage, but on the wikipedia webpage "en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:xxxx.jpg". Is that a correct understanding? KoshVorlon

It looks like this may be a simple misunderstanding of Wikipedia's terminology. You are correct that the image is saved on the "en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:xxxx.jpg" page, but when policy speaks of a forbidden use of an image, it is referring to the link created by placing the brackets around the image name. The existence of a fair use image on Wikipedia is not against policy, only the display of that image outside of article space. In other words, the link created by enclosing the image name in brackets ([[Image:Bush1.jpg]]) displays the image on the page where you create that link. If that link is placed on a page other than an article, displaying a fair use image on a page that is not an article, it is a violation of policy. - auburnpilot talk 18:34, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

As an example of what I'm trying to say above, I uploaded Image:NASDAQ logo.png for use in the NASDAQ article. If you look at the image page, it has proper source information, a fair use rationale, and a license tag. The image may be used in the NASDAQ article by placing the brackets are its name, but I may not do the same on my userpage. - auburnpilot talk 18:38, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Auburnpilot - I understand you. I was more or less half right. The image isn't on this userpage, but, that doesn't mean I can link to it to make it display on this userpage unless it's on of my own images (Attributed correctly!  :) ). Thanks for the reply. KoshVorlon
".. We are ALL Kosh..."
18:47, 27 August 2007 (UTC)