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Contents 1 Rav Schwab 2 List of fictional literature mentioning opera 3 Broadway Rose 4 Cortot? Cooper 5 cortot guy 6 Shlishke cite barely ok 7 Hi Bob 8 John Abraham 9 Ed Norton in Sleepwalk: Lu-lu, Lu-lu 10 Columbia Workshop 11 Welcome! 12 The Cocoanuts (musical) 13 Welcome 14 Cocoanuts in Coconut Grove 15 List of fictional literature mentioning opera (Pt. 2)

[edit] Rav Schwab

Hey, welcome. How did you get that Rav Schwab bibliography? I've been looking for original editions of "These and Those". JFW | T@lk 22:28, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of fictional literature mentioning opera

Hi. I'm not planning to revert your linking of all the Rémy and Sand occurrences, but the general rule in Wikipedia is that it's normally only necessary to link the first instance in an article of any name, place, body, concept, etc., etc. The standard exception is where instances are some distance apart in a long article, so not (as here) when they are right next to each other. See this para in the Manual of Style, 5th and 6th bullets. Best. --GuillaumeTell (talk) 22:12, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Broadway Rose

Thanks for your efforts on this article. There is no Woodburn, New Jersey, and I'd like to try to figure out if Woodbury or some other place is intended. Ancestry.com is great, but I can't find the specific reference that would have the details. Do you have a more specific source? Alansohn 20:01, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cortot? Cooper

Hi,

I did the original rewrite of the absurd fundraising letter of Mannes masquerading as a Wiki entry. I graduated from Mannes in ca. 82, with Ken Cooper hpschd (and Amy Kaiser choral cond., who's a dope with bad technique); Ken deserves an entry, as being the most sought after and creative continuo player in NY and Tanglewood (and a good handful of nifty records: fortepiano Bach flute sonatas with I forget her name, the gamba sonatas with yoyo ma, where in typical fashion it sounds like a cello concerto with a harpsichord somewhere (as opposed to the through composed equality), the Goldbergs, etc. etc.

My real question: Cortot?!? Holy cow. When, how?

Best, rob —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shlishke (talk • contribs) 19:34, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] cortot guy

Hi, I also went to CUNY Grad, musicology, ABD Feel free to add to the shlishke article; some jerk added an irrelevant cite someone has to kill; I have the Hungarian name of the dish but am too lazy to go copy it out.

Robert Braham —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shlishke (talk • contribs) 16:48, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Shlishke cite barely ok

I see that the aricle mentions in one sord shlishke; it is still way to misleading, all about the village of Kiryas Joel, and, more importantly, is concerned with and gives recipes for Hannucka.

Not the most serious issue in the world, but credit where credit's due. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shlishke (talk • contribs) 17:51, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hi Bob

Hi, I've discovered your secret.

Rob Braham

Shlishke (talk) 05:45, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

(BTW, if you'll excuse the impertinence, but saying you were bred in in NYC is a statement about where your parents did the deed. If anything, it should reverse the order, with "bred, born,...." But wait, there's more: animals are raised; children are, among other things, "brought up."

I expect to see this issue resolved ASAP.)

[edit] John Abraham

Remember John Abraham, the great singer, aka "John Braham the Jew"?

Same story. I always tell people my father circumcised his name when he came to the country (cut off the tip, get it?). Plus his first name was Adolph, and that was right out. It's now Randolph Braham.

See ya Shlishke (talk) 07:01, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ed Norton in Sleepwalk: Lu-lu, Lu-lu

Didn't you write a paper on Lulus in the world? Shlishke (talk) 06:36, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Nope, that wasn't me.  :) kosboot (talk) 17:15, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Columbia Workshop

Excellent research! Glad to see you did this... which has been sitting there waiting for someone like you. Btw, I've often wondered about Corwin's "Once Upon a Tune." Do you know what that was about? Pepso2 (talk) 19:43, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Would you be interested in joining WikiProject Radio? --PhantomS (talk) 03:00, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

I did it for layout/design reasons. I'll put it back. Pepso2 (talk) 04:14, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Excellent work on the table! Maybe someday every major radio program will have a table like that one. Pepso2 (talk) 12:03, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome!

[edit] The Cocoanuts (musical)

Thanks for forking that -- it needed to be done! If you could, please take a look at our article structure for musicals, and see if you can bring the article a little closer in line to that. The synopsis needs to be cut down CONSIDERABLY -- generally speaking, there's no need to break things into scenes. The section on "published music" is unnecessary and unencyclopedic. Thanks again! —  MusicMaker5376 04:56, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Considering that the script is unavailable, I feel it important to have a detailed plot along with the scene changes. Perhaps I'll add a brief "plot summary." As a librarian, I do think the list of published music is necessary, since some of the music written for this show is lost. -- kosboot (talk) 11:24, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

But just having a list of songs without any context doesn't make any sense. If, instead, we can get some sense of what was different from the original version to the summer edition -- specifically, where the songs were added -- it might be helpful. —  MusicMaker5376 14:30, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

I point out that most articles on musicals have lists of songs without any context. It's useful to have, just like the listing on an album, for reference. In the plot summary I've included the context for every song, so your criticism is answered there. I'll soon be adding a section on what was changed for the 1926 Summer Edition. -- kosboot (talk) 14:53, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome

Welcome to the Opera Project!

Hello, Kosboot! We're delighted you've signed up to join us! Opera is a very active, medium-sized project with more than 4,400 articles - it's smaller than the mega-projects like Music etc, but it is also larger than closely-focused projects such as Richard Wagner. We have a discussion page linked to the main project page where you signed in. Participants work together on articles, see for example the Composer of the month, Singer of the month and Can you help? features on the Project page. Please take part! The scope of the project is huge: 400 years of history, many countries and many languages. For that reason the editing style of opera articles can sometimes be complicated, so we have detailed guidelines for formatting on the project page, covering the tricky points like opera titles, capitalization, categories etc. Please don't be too bothered if you make a few mistakes at first - we all went through the same thing when we started! Some opera editors use reference books such the New Grove Dictionary of Opera, New Grove Dictionary of Music and Musicians, the Oxford Dictionary of Opera and the Viking Opera Guide. These are helpful for checking facts and providing the essential references required on Wikipedia. It's great if you can get access to these books. However if you don't have access to books, there are still many other ways you can contribute to the project: compiling lists of recordings, writing synopses of your favourite operas using CD librettos, translating texts from other languages, picture researching, writing biographies of contemporary singers from online sources etc etc - and see also the To do list for articles needing attention. We hope you have a great time on the Opera Project. Please don't hesitate to ask us if you have any questions! We are always here - here! Best regards!

--Kleinzach (talk) 04:06, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Cocoanuts in Coconut Grove

Dear Kosboot - I notice you changed the Coconut Grove article to say the musical Cocoanuts was set in that town. Why would you say that? In the Wikipedia article for Cocoanuts it says that it is set in Cocoanut Beach. I don't know of any hotels in Coconut Grove in 1925. In 1923 there had been Camp Biscayne, El Dorado, and the Sunshine Inn. These were all rustic things, not what we would think of as hotels. Anyway, they were all gone by 1925 - sold out during the BOOM. GroveGuy (talk) 09:42, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Kosboot - Maybe I'm not asking the right question. I'll try again. In the play/movie what are the exact words used to designate the location of the hotel ? I do not have a copy of the play to look at. In the Wickipedia article it says "Coconut Beach". If it is "Coconut Beach" the author was undoubtably referring to "Miami Beach" the fun riotous place where tourists went in 1925, not "Coconut Grove", the quiet boring residential suburb of Miami. GroveGuy (talk) 21:59, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] List of fictional literature mentioning opera (Pt. 2)

Hi: I stumbled upon this list that you created, and while I respect the effort that's gone into it, I don't think it meets Wikipedia's standards as an encyclopedic topic (in other words, it's listcruft). The list apparently has no standards for how meaningful the opera reference has to be for a book to be included, nor any kind of justification for why it's significant that these books mention opera. (There are also no citations, for what that's worth.) The Talk page indicates that these weaknesses were apparent when the article was created, but that you and/or other people planned to improve the article to alleviate those problems; obviously, that hasn't happened, as the article has basically gone untouched since the week of its creation. I'm inclined to nominate it for deletion at WP:AFD but since you're still apparently an active editor, I figured I'd mention it to you first and see if you had anything to say about it. Propaniac (talk) 21:13, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

(In response to your comment on my Talk page) Well, I kind of am making suggestions for improving it: "The list apparently has no standards for how meaningful the opera reference has to be for a book to be included, nor any kind of justification for why it's significant that these books mention opera. (There are also no citations, for what that's worth.)" I'm happy to place my comments on the article's Talk page as well. As for why I'd rather suggest that the article be deleted rather than improve it myself, there are two main reasons: I don't know anything about opera or any of these books, and the article as-is doesn't suggest that this would be a worthwhile list even if improved. (Worthwhile for Wikipedia, that is; if I was an opera fan, I can completely understand why a list of books mentioning opera would be interesting, and I have my own pet projects that are similarly very interesting to a specific community but not appropriate for Wikipedia.) It's entirely possible that I'm wrong and this could be a very good list, but the current criteria for inclusion doesn't suggest it. In other words, is there any reason why someone outside the opera fandom should care that a non-notable book happens to mention the name of a specific opera? (Oh, and I'm sure there are other bad lists on Wikipedia, probably much worse than this one, but that's a weak argument for retaining anything.) Propaniac (talk) 13:55, 2 June 2008 (UTC)