Talk:Korean numerals

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Are these numerals, or just number-words? Is there a special set of symbols for numbers unique to Korean usage?

A valid point. -- Visviva 04:47, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

But actually if the article Numeral is any guide, number-words are also a form of numeral. There are also other articles that follow this convention, such as Romanian numerals and English-language numerals... -- Visviva 04:51, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

"numeral" means "symbol representing a number", not "number-word". This article is definitely misnamed. It is true that a few other wikipedia articles make the same mistake, but it is definitely an error. The page on Japanese numerals is mostly about numerals but digresses into number-words a bit, while the page on Chinese numerals deals exclusively with the symbols. I think that it would be a good thing to clear up this confusion both by giving the articles correct titles and where necessary splitting content into a "number" article and a "numeral" article. The way it is is misleading to people looking for information and makes it look like topics are covered that in some cases have not been.Bill 00:08, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Origin of Native Korean numerals

Hi, I read from somewhere that Native Korean numerals were borrowed/resembles numerals from other languages. Is this true? Alex Ng 02:03, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Borrowed? I'd be interested to see the source for that. -- Visviva 04:47, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Higher numbers

Can we get a source for these? If they're real -- and I know I've at least heard of gyeong --, they must have been invented by someone. -- Visviva 04:47, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Web sources tend to use 10⁵² for 항하사 and 10⁶⁸ for 무량대수, but my dictionary uses 10⁵⁶ for 항하사 and increases the gaps by 10⁸. --Kjoonlee 03:53, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Numerals (sic)

Printed numerals look pretty much the way they do in the U.S. Many of the same fonts are used. Here are some popular fonts provided by HanWord, the popular South Korean program roughly equivalent to MSW Word: 1234567890 HY동녘M 1234567890 굴림 1234567890 HY엽서L 1234567890 피노키오M 1234567890 궁서 . (I hope these fonts are accurately depicted here: I pasted them from HanWord.)

On calenders and other public printing, the numeral two is a flipped five (i.e., a semi-circle is connected with a vertical bar to a horizontal bar at the base).

In hand-written numerals, a seven has a long bar slanting down almost like a German one, or it can be drawn with a vertical bar on the left (as much as a third or quarter of the height of the main bar) going up to the horizontal bar. Nine is occasionally drawn with the buble on the right of the straight vertical bar (instead of on the left as in U.S. hand-numbering). Four can be written with a vertical bar on the left, a slanting bar or, a slanting closing bar (as in the computer font four. Eight is some-times written as one circle above another.

In presenting most numbers larger than 999 and practically always when the numbers are larger than 10,000, commas are placed after every three digits. For example: 1,234,567,890 representes one billion, etc. Thus, the commas do not reflect the counting system (ones/tnes/hundreds/thousands/ten-thousands etc.).

Maybe some of this should be incorporated into the article. kdammers. 5 June 2007. 20:42 Korea time.

NUMBER USAGE:

It should be noted that the two number systems generally follow the abstract/concrete form structure. For example, Hana, Dul, Set (1,2,3) would be used for indicating time; Han Se (1:00 o'clock), where Il, E, Som (1,2,3) would be used for counting objects. When referring to people, you would use the abstract form; Han Saram (one person). As with all languages, there will be exceptions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Charlie0513 (talk • contribs) 20:31, 14 September 2007 (UTC)