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[edit] You are very welcome
Hi Koplimek, thanks for the message and always glad to be of assistance - just let me know if there is anything that I can do. Take care and keep up the good work, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 18:57, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
RE: Aquitania
Hi, thanks for the message i am trying to find the evidence about the Aquitania design, i think it is mentioned in one of the former Cunard commodore autobiographies (possibly Harry Grattidge) - when i find it i will let you know!
Regards
msa1701 (talk) 14:32, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Kickermaru
Hi. Do you know the name of the maritime site that listed the Kichemaru shipwreck [1]? If you know the site name or domain, it might be possible to recover the info as someone might have archived it or it might be on archive.org. Ha! (talk) 04:22, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
- FYI, I've created an article on the SS Dakota that you mentioned in the AfD. Ha! (talk) 00:17, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
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- see reply to User_talk:Koplimek#Kickermaru. Ha! (talk) 14:20, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] SS Dakota
Hey, I liked the link to the image [2] of the Dakota that you added (then removed) from the Project Gutenberg site. If it's from Project Gutenberg, isn't it very likely to copyright free and so able to be added to the article directly (like in an info box). Do you know what book it came from on Project Gutenberg. There's also an image here [3], although that one says it was scanned in 1999 and you need to pay for copies of it so it can't be used. I think the source they come from will be public though, so it's just a case of finding a copy that someone scanned or photographed and didn't copyright.
++ I found a whole bunch more links by searching for Steamship Dakota instead of SS Dakota (why I didn't think of that before I don't know). There should be a fair bit to build the article up
- http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9E05EEDC1E3BE631A25754C0A9649C946597D6CF
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_W._Taylor
- http://www.prairiepublic.org/programs/datebook/bydate/08/0208/020608.jsp
- http://www.secstate.wa.gov/history/newspapers_subjects.aspx?s=111 (needs DejaVu plugin)
- http://www.immigrantships.net/1800/dakota18761002.html (this is a ship from 1876 - odd)
- http://www.jcameron.com/personal/smithen/AnnLaws.htm (and again, from 1876)
- http://www.mnhs.org/collections/manuscripts/pres.htm
- http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mruddy/jomfuneral.htm
- http://content.lib.washington.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/ic&CISOPTR=349&CISOBOX=1&REC=1
- http://books.google.com/books?id=5taHoMjDc6IC&pg=PA49&lpg=PA49&dq=steamship+dakota&source=web&ots=0ukqpv9dp-&sig=x7v4xjDIkVu-kKbxH7x80jRWzt8&hl=en
- http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/rescue/timeline/index.html (added sig - Ha! (talk)}
- I was also thinking that a page should be opened up on Dakota's identical sister ship "Minnesota" who saw a longer service life up to 1923. Minnesota was also called "Troy" during her World War One service.Koplimek (talk) 17:07, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
- Since no one signed I'll assume it's Ha. I removed the Gutenberg photo (I liked it too) cause there was copyright problems even though there shouldn't be since the photo is from 1907 and way before the 1923 cutoff year for copyrighted pictures. I found the sharper Dakota photo on Google Images by typing in "Dakota Steamship" just like you were doing. I agree 'SS Dakota" doesn't always work. Sometimes you get different results by typing "S.S. Dakota". i didn't think there'd be a problem with just 'linking' the photo as opposed to uploadingit onto Wikipedia without permission. Thankfully the photo exists in a number of versions in contrasty to sharp versions. Koplimek (talk) 17:28, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
- As you say, it's OK to add a link to it, as long as it's not displayed as a photo in the article it can't break any copyright. I've seen a couple of different images (maybe some of them were just flipped around or mirror images actually) of the Dakota sinking on postcards, there seem to be a few of them around. Ha! (talk) 22:13, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Invitation to join WikiProject Ships
Hello Koplimek! I noticed your contributions to SS Dakota, and thought you might be interested in WikiProject Ships, a collaborative effort to improve Wikipedia's coverage of ships of all kinds.
If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks and related articles. Thanks! Maralia (talk) 03:14, 13 April 2008 (UTC) |
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[edit] Re Cunard captians / commodores
Thanks for the message, I have a copy of "Captain of the Queens" by Grattidge, The three volumes of James Bisset's memoirs (Gordon James Partrige Bisset is his full name from birth) and two others autobiographies "Queen company" by Donald McLeans and "The Queens and I" by Geoffrey Thrippleton Marr.
It seems they all captained both Queens and it seems that they have followed one another as one reaches the rank of commodore and then retires after about two years and the next senior captain steps up to take his place.
Only Geoffrey Marr's book (which is the best read by far) mentions that the company policy changed when he came to the rank as it became on merit rather than length of service and he had his term cut short when the flagship was retired early.
And the other thing is that the majority of the name above - barring Bisset were all aboard the Queen Mary at the same time when she ran aground as Cherbourg - which indicates Cunard did not employ a large amount of officers to run their ships.
Additionaly for your reading - Bertram Fox Hayes book "Hull down" is a good read about life in the White Star Line especially where it comes to the "Olympic" and his captaining her in service, in the entire book there is no mention of the "Titanic", Edward Smith or any of her crew members - it's seems that he missed all this part of his career out possibly in case it affected his White Star Line pension!
Regards
msa1701 (talk) 14:47, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Joseph Boxhall
Yes it is a shame for he was the highest ranking ex White Star officer from merger, as first officer he would still have been below the captain and the staff captain / chief officer of the Aquitania.
In a couple of the autobiographies it seems quite usual for the officers at attain the rank of captain and command some of the companies smaller vessels in the fleet and then step down as the captain of that vessel and return to the Queens as a senior officer.
Bertram Hayes commanded the first Britannic on one trip as captain and was due to step back to the rank of chief officer afterwards after the trip ended, which was an agreement with Henry Ismay of the White Star Line - but he died and Hayes stayed as a captain after that with the reorganizing of the new management structure. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Msa1701 (talk • contribs) 12:46, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] SS Izaro
Do you have a reference for that entry in the List of shipwrecs in 1907? Mjroots (talk) 21:20, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Re: Charles Lightoller
Yes he did and he ran a boatyard in Sunbury on Thames, i have read his autobiography and it is not one of the better ones (Titanic and other ships).
msa1701 (talk) 21:23, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Gail Kane
Thanks for the message. I am sure that I took the date of birth from one of the newspaper sources I have listed as references. However, it's been awhile. Perhaps the newspaper was accurate or maybe it was not. Best from Robert--Robert (talk) 14:36, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] RE: Aquitania
The books that mention the various Cunard ships running aground near Southampton don't list generally if it was the river Test or the Solent as the point where they ran aground - but just off of Calshot is a huge area of shallows that occasionally can dry out and that is the area where i believe the ships ran aground as it is in the shipping lanes!
If you can prove whereabouts they did run aground i would be most interested.
Regards
msa1701 (talk) 13:17, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
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