Talk:Konnan

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Article milestones Date Process Result January 28, 2006 Featured article candidate Not promoted February 11, 2006 Peer review Reviewed March 27, 2006 Good article nominee Listed April 9, 2006 Featured article candidate Not promoted Current Status: Good article

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Contents 1 older comments 2 Requested move 2.1 Voting 3 Shoot Interview as a source 4 Finishing and signature moves 5 Military service 6 WHO?? 7 AAA 8 In recent news interviews... 9 Cleaning Up References/Footnotes/Notes 10 GA Disputed

[edit] older comments

this meets GA criteria; but can still be improved by more clearly separating reality from fiction e.g. "he betrayed his tag team partner", make clear this is kayfabe to distinguish it from real facts in the same paragraph. Zzzzz 18:52, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Requested move

Charles Ashenoff → Konnan – He has used the name "Konnan" consistently since at least 1991, and has released films and music albums under this name. Naming the page "Konnan" will avoid controversy over whether the page should be at "Charles Ashenoff" or "Carlos Ashenoff" (he is a Hispanic-American). Moving the page will allow more direct linking and lessen redirects. McPhail 19:47, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Voting

Add *Support or *Oppose followed by an optional one-sentence explanation, then sign your vote with ~~~~

• Support Seems an ideal solution! --Lox (t,c) 21:06, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Moved. —Nightstallion (?) 09:04, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Shoot Interview as a source

I probably should have brought this up earlier but Konnan has a reputation for twisting the truth to make himself sound better. If he doesn't like somebody, he'll exaggerate or even make up things to one up them. That 58,000 audience figure doesn't sound right either.--Darren Jowalsen 02:57, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Finishing and signature moves

Shouldn't it have it's own section? I've moved it before, but someone moved it back.Yugioh73036 00:55, 11 August 2006 (UTC)Yugioh73036

read the featured article candidation.. they dont want information in section the want it to be placed with the text in these stat box like things --- Paulley

Bleh. IMO that table should be changed somehow, because "Move name: Crucifix powerbomb | Description: Crucifix powerbomb" doesn't look right. -->So sayeth Methnor^{Sayeth back}|_{Other sayethings}

Yes i does need improvement i agree but we have to get a better in text table created to fit the move and manager sections into--- Paulley

Also why is it in the middle instead of at the beginning or end?Freebird Jackson 20:50, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

because it has to look like its itergrated into the article and not a section of it --- Paulley

Can someone please stopping the boxes on the article. The table should be changed somehow or removed , because "Move name: Crucifix powerbomb | Description: Crucifix powerbomb" doesn't look right. It shouble be put in normal finishers and signatures wrestling list

If it has its own section, then the article will never be a FA. Yes, it needs to be redesigned, but it will not, I repeat will not be given its own section in this article. When a working format is discovered, then all of the others will be reformatted to that design. This article is the guinea pig. -- The Hybrid 01:24, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

I like it looking seperate, because this is just...weird —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.241.214.74 (talk) 13:36, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Military service

I deleted a section where it stated Ashenoff served in the Persian Gulf and "Ashenhoff resigned his commission.". He was enlisted not an officer and therefore never received a commission. I'm not sure how he was discharged, but it was not via resignation/of his own option.--DrRisk13 21:11, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WHO??

"He was given a choice of either going to jail, or entering the Military." by who?--Henning Ihmels 16:46, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Presumably the judge.

[edit] AAA

Konnan is also in AAA bringing in wrestlers from TNA Wrestling and other promotions, he acts like The Outsiders and disrepspects wrestlers in AAA, claiming they're bailarinas, he has joing forces with LLL which is a stable that tries to take over AAA -Prince Bee

[edit] In recent news interviews...

...he's been repeatedly introduced as "Carlos Ashenoff." Should the lead to this article perhaps be changed? Nosleep1234 21:40, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cleaning Up References/Footnotes/Notes

Since this article has a bunch of references, I think it should be cleaned up with the following:

<!-- ----------------------------------------------------------
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Footnotes for a discussion of different citation methods and how to generate footnotes using the<ref>, </ref> and <reference /> tags
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<div style="height: 220px; overflow: auto; padding: 3px; border:1px solid #AAAAAA; reflist4" > {{reflist|3}} </div>

For an example of it use see The Simpsons Movie.

But due the way the citation in the footnotes are setup, it leaves a blank box.

Mr. C.C. 06:53, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GA Disputed

I have not nominated this article at WP:GA/R because overall it is a good article. However, there are two areas that need to be addressed in order for this article to retain GA. First, which is noted in the section above, the references need to be cleaned up. The style used doesn't matter, but all available information needs to be included. See WP:CITE. Second, the article goes in and out of universe. This needs to be corrected. It needs to be clear that he wrestled storylines. I haven't read all the promoted articles listed on the PW project page, but I know many, if not all, of the others I've read mention kayfabe, which this one does not. If issues aren't addressed, the article will be listed at WP:GA/R where others will read the article and determine whether or not it meets the criteria listed at WP:WIAGA. This could result in the article being delisted. Drop a line on my talk page if you have any questions or need help with anything. Regards, Lara♥Love 18:20, 13 August 2007 (UTC)