Talk:Knock Nevis

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[edit] Flag

  • Article says this in the section "The Ship":
    The ship sails under the flag of Singapore. She is crewed by 40 people.

    However, the ship dosen't sail anymore and is permanently moored, as mentioned later in the article.

    According to the data in the following website, the ship has been carrying the Norwegian flag since 1979.
    http://supertankers.topcities.com/id132.htm

    The only involvement of Singapore in with Knock Nevis is when Keppel Shipyard repaired the wreck after Iraqi jets bombed the ship.

    I have removed the reference to the Singapore flag untill someone can present evidence of the ship sailing under the Singapore flag. --Pavithran 13:58, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
According to Class Society DNV at https://exchange.dnv.com/exchange/main.aspx?extool=vessel&subview=registry&imono=7381154 it is Singapore. Also Equasis at http://www.equasis.org/equasis/affiche.build_page_2?P_IMO=7381154&P_SHIP_MANAGER=1448869&Z_CHK=30123 shows Singapore.Offshore1 19:45, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Why Hong Kong category?--ZorroIII 12:01, 2005 Mar 13 (UTC)

[edit] There is no ship in the Google map link

Maybe it Google took a new photo when the ship wasn't it? Or maybe I'm looking at the wrong thing. Riobranden 18:25, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Inconsistency

In the first paragraph the Iranian Airforce is supposed to have damaged the ship. Later in the article the blame is shouldered by the Iraqi Airforce. Is this verifiable? --203.187.212.153 23:05, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Google Maps link to her removed

I have to disappoint you but the ship on Google Maps/Google Earth is not the Knock Nevis. I therefore removed the link.

There are quiet a few things that let me draw this conclusion:

  1. The ship on GM/GE is too small. The article states she is 458 by 69 meters but the ship on GM/GE is only 331 by 57 meters
  2. Judging by the several photos the article points to, there are the following clues:
    • The mid ships piping abeam (across) of the sat photos ship count 3 but the Knock Nevis has 4
    • The sat photo ship shows two white towers from the piping midships towards the bow. The are no such towers on the Knock Nevis
    • The sat photo ship shows capstans at an angle while those of the Knock Nevis are straight abeam
    • The sat photo ship does not show the gill like structures along both sides of the ships deck which the Knock Nevis shows

The are a couple of other differences but those above should convince everyone that the satellite picture does not show the Knock Nevis - the most important should be the difference in size.

Here's the original link on Google Maps, coordinates 25°16'42.94"N, 55°15'2.84"E: Link

[edit] Current location

The ship is under contract to Maersk Oil in Qatar until mid-2007, apparently in the Al-Shaheen oil field, which is northeast of Qatar's land. Google Maps apparently does not have good enough resolution to show the ship in that area. JonathanFreed 05:35, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] World's largest?

Anyone know if the Knock Nevis is self-propelled after her conversion? That is, is her steam plant still in operation? If not, then she is not listed in Lloyd's Register of Ships and the title of world's largest ship would be held by the four TI Europe class ULCCs.Mytg8 16:44, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

But the Batilus class vessels were scrapped... which leaves Knock Nevis as largest. Or do you mean TI Oceana? Go to that link and it recognises Knock Nevis as larger —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.69.16.174 (talk) 19:39, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Steam plant in use?

FSO Knock Nevis steam plant is still in operation and is regularly being used during mooring operation with export tanker to keep her in place. This is also part of the emergency procedures, which means she is able disconnect import/export hoses and mooring hawser and sail away on her own power.

[edit] NO SMOKING

That must be one of the largest no smoking signs in the world. I dare, nay, I challenge anyone to find one that is bigger. Actually, perhaps there should be an article for the largest sign in the world... Mk623SC20K 22:14, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Challenge met and destroyed! http://www.theage.com.au/news/web/nullarbor-logo-zone/2006/12/13/1165685690455.html

-G —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.231.36.236 (talk) 00:58, 2 January 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Comparison Image

Click image for list of items included
Click image for list of items included

Greetings, I created the comparison image to the left, and I originally added it to this page in Feb 2007, only to have it removed because apparently it is "ridiculous".. Can I please have some opinions/comments? Apparently including arguably the most well known sci-fi spaceship makes the entire thing "ridiculous"? - Fosnez 14:56, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, do you understand why including a fictional object might expose your compariaon to ridicule? Whay not include the Yellow Brick Road as well? Apart from the spacecraft it is actually quite informative. Why not replace it with a real spacecraft, or the Hindenburg? or a large aircraft? Greglocock 00:31, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
That is a very nice image, but I agree. Remove the starship or replace it and it would make a very good addition to the article.Mytg8 15:59, 5 September 2007 (UTC)


New version uploaded, but now I see there is already one on the page.. what to do?? Fosnez 12:36, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Changing Map Coordinates

The coordinates listed in the article are in the middle of the ocean which Google maps doesn't render. HOWEVER, south west of that location (near Qatar) is a port where a large craft appears to be moored. The coordinates are 25.933680, 51.598535. I'm going to edit the page to reflect this change.Kakomu 06:57, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GLW? (Gross Laden Weight)

This is (or was) a oil tanker, not an eighteen wheeler. The Knock Nevis has gross registered tonnage of 260,941 grt, a net registered tonnage of 214,793 nrt, a deadweight (weight of cargo/fuel/supplies etc.) of 564,650 dwt and a displacement (maximum total weight) of 647,955 t. The first two of these measurements are of volume (100 cubic feet equals one gross or net ton) and the latter two measurements are of mass in metric tonnes. It appears that the figure for GLW was derived by adding the figures for grt and deadweight tons together. As this is combining apples and oranges (or rather volume and mass) the figure is meaningless. In the final analysis, only trucks have a GLW, not ships.--Sadowski (talk) 20:11, 11 February 2008 (UTC)