User talk:Knivesout8

The following discussion is an archived debate of the username below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as Wikipedia talk:Requests for comment/User names). No further edits should be made to this section.

If you do not laugh your ass off, you quite possibly may not be a human being.

The result was: allow Ryan Postlethwaite 20:30, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Report from UAA: name implies weapons use and violence.Rlevse 18:39, 13 September 2007 (UTC), SGGH ^speak! 18:48, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

• "Knives Out" is a Radiohead song, that may be all they meant by it. --Bongwarrior 18:43, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
• This is really tenuous, and certainly not enough to force a change over. --Haemo 18:48, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
• Take a look at what he did as soon as the account was created. Intent is clearly not good.Rlevse 18:50, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
• Allow, I don't think this is meant that way. Knives can also be used in the kitchen; "knives out" doesn't necessarily imply violence. Block if he starts vandalising, not otherwise. Melsaran (talk) 18:53, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
• Allow. I don't understand how his edits relate to the assertion that his name implies violence. While perhaps controversial, the name in and of itself is not. He also hasn't been notified of this concern. Into The Fray ^T/C 18:58, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

I went ahead and posted a welcome and a notification to his talk page. Into The Fray ^T/C 19:05, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

• I must say that I appreciate Rlevse's concern, which was so grave that it did not notify me. Usernames in and of themselves can certainly incite violence, especially when they are references to Radiohead songs. This subversive behavior is dangerous to society, and should not be tolerated. This is even more important because such a user may make edits that other users who support certain politicians may not want to be publicized. Remember, we shouldn't deal with facts, only what feels right in our gut! --knivesout8 19:07, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
  • knivesout8, your name was reported here by Rlevse in good faith. While I can understand that you may feel put out, try to keep civil at all times. My opinion is that this is username is ok. knivesout8 may wish to put a link to Knives Out on the userpage. -- Flyguy649 ^talk _contribs 19:21, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
    • The note at the top of the page does say that you should always contact the user before (or possibly at the same time as) listing here. SamBC(talk) 21:04, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
      • Certainly, but the level of sarcasm in knivesout8's response was a bit lacking in WP:AGF, and even Rlevse's initial oversight doesn't make that okey. Nevertheless, can't we all just be friends?  :)   justen   22:23, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
        • As we presume the editor is a newbie, and a bitten one at that, they are excused their bad faith I'm sure. How are people supposed to get up to speed on all our policies immediately anyway? Secretlondon 03:25, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
          • Comment I'd have to agree with Secretlondon, I spent a good 18+ months lurking, doing nothing but watching, and learning policies/guidelines (which changed as rapidly as I learned them, lol) before I felt comfortable editing consistently, and there are a significant number of them to get through. I find nothing offensive about this name, and I can see no violation of WP:U. If the editor's editing behavior is in question, then that's what the issue is, behavior, not username. ^Ariel♥Gold 04:24, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Actually, this page here says notify the user and I am not the one that reported it here. It was moved here from the Usernames noticeboard by another admin, which does not say anything about notifying the user, though I agree it should and I should have, a simple oversight. Nonetheless, Knivesout8's reaction and comments are over the top and uncalled for. Also note I have not edited any article or user talk page that he has edited.Rlevse 22:40, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

• I say that we allow the name, as it's not against policy. However, he doesn't seem to be assuming good faith of other editors (even if he is the one who's correct), which is a completely different issue, but I've even seen many experienced editors jump the gun when it comes to political articles and POV. I think he can turn out to be a great editor in time, as he knows article-writing policy already, and I don't want to discourage his participation here.  hmwith  talk 00:25, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
• Allow the name, caution the user regarding civility and assuming good faith. The violence link in this name is ambiguous and unlikely to cause significant offense. The edit history shows a fair bit of hostility to various other editors but that is unrelated to the username. Euryalus 02:38, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
• Allow per skilled sarcasm... umm I mean not referring to violent real world acts, but a reference to music. ((1 == 2) ? (('Stop') : ('Go')) 04:52, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
• Allow he has got his knives out.... so?? -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 06:20, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
• While I lean to allowing the name based just based on the face of it, the user has serious problems with civility and edit waring (under IP address). He really needs to be watched and guided. ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 20:15, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
• allow Its natural to expect the user to be slightly incivil especially since being notified that their user name may not be appropriate is not a good thing and may be biting to some people. As for the name itself, its about knives, so what? --Hdt83 ^Chat 08:37, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
• Allow - Yeah really, I agree with Hdt83. --Тhε Rαnδom Eδιτor 20:24, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

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