User talk:Klytos

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Welcome!

Hello, Klytos, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question and then place {{helpme}} before the question on your talk page. Again, welcome!  --KFP (talk | contribs) 21:28, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Well, I see this welcome is almost a year and a half late but better late than never. --KFP (talk | contribs) 21:30, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Adventures

Hey, I joined the WikiProject you created and I agree that things need to be done with a lot of adventure game articles, because many of them are pitifully short and/or badly-written stubs. And then of course we have Sierra On-line, which will require an immense amount of work. But I'm all for rewriting it. Unfortunately, I have other duties to attend to for the time being, but I'll get to work as soon as I'm done (13.06, I'd say). For the time being, I'd suggest changing the WP's name to Wikipedia:WikiProject Adventure games, just to clarify and prevent confusion.

On List of Sierra Entertainment video games, I worked on it extensively before moving it from the main article. I think it still needs a lot of work, but we have time for that. Another thing I'd like to do is create articles for some of the early Sierra games (SierraVentures series).

Good luck with the project and good job on the King's Quest III remake; I enjoyed it immensely. Cromag 16:54, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

One question. Do you plan to work on articles related solely to Sierra On-line or have a go at destubifying and improving other adventure game pages? For example, through the summer, I plan to thoroughly modify the Legend of Kyrandia article (if I can get the games to work) and I could use some help. Some time ago, I created a user subpage containing an outline of some of the changes I plan to introduce in various articles, so you might want to visit that to get a better idea of what I want to do. All things considered though, what's most important right now is resuscitating Sierra On-line, so I'm willing to postpone other contributions in favor of that for the time being. Cromag talk to me 13:44, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] politicians

You are correct that being an elected official is not enough for Notability. However, members of national legislatures are hardly "local officials" , and are always without exception considered notable. Furthermore, members of state or provincial legislatures are also always considered Notable--I personally am not sure I always agree here, but the consensus is clear about this. Please do not nominate any through speedy as they do not fit the standard for speedy; if you nominate for prod, the prod will be removed. If you want to try AfD, you are certainly entitles, but you might want to consider earlier nominations and see if you are likely to have much success. If you want to argue for a policy change, the Village pump is the customary place. As guide for what is considered insufficiently notable, mayor of large cities are notable, of small town usually not unless here is some other element of notability. Ditto for members of municipal councils and so on. Ditto for losing candidates, except for those holding high positions within their party. (I'm therefore removing notability labels on such people) That's plenty of scope for deletion, and I strongly encourage you to propose the deletion of such articles through prod or AfD. (speedy does not qualify if the article asserts importance, whether or not the subject would actually be considered important at Wikipedia.) Happy hunting! DGG 22:23, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

DGG's said it perfectly - politicians such as Sue Boyce are not "local elected officials", but noteworthy national Senators in the Senate of Australia. Thanks for letting me know about your proposed deletion, but your reasoning here is very unlikely to be endorsed by many other editors - prod and speedy deletion are inappropriate, and an AFD is unlikely to succeed, although you are welcome to put the article up for deletion to "test the water" so to speak, although looking at previous AFDs may be a better idea. --Canley 02:03, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
I strongly suggest you re-read WP:BIO - some of the people you are nominating are federal politicians representing an entire state. Elected minor party politicians, strangely enough, are often *more* notable than their major party counterparts simply because they get reported on so much. Some long-term Liberal politicians, for example, have barely seen a news headline in the last 10 years. Not sure where you are based, but one category which does need attention is local councillors (which fall into "local elected officials" quite nicely and are rarely notable unless they have a second claim to fame). Orderinchaos 04:48, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the notes people, I'm happy to take to all onboard and fall into line on this. I didn't go out of my way to specifically target political articles in general, I was just browsing WP and found stuff that I thought was honestly quite crap (which I still believe regardless of accepted practice, these people are simply not note-worthy except that they're elected officials.) Orderinchaos, I'm located in Brisbane Queensland, FYI. :) Anyway, cheers for the info.Klytos 05:37, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
If you think an article's crap, then improving it or tagging it so that others can do so should always be preferable to deletion. You were right in that the Sue Boyce article did not contain enough references to strictly pass WP:BIO, but I've added several since you proposed deletion, so it fulfils Wikipedia's primary notability criterion. I think most stubby articles on Australian politicians would do likewise with a little work, hence the reason they are unlikely to be deleted on notability grounds. -- Canley 08:42, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
I used the word crap in reference to the fact that I believe the subjects of the articles are simply not note-worthy EXCEPT that they're elected officials. But if this is enough by WP standards, then that's fine, I'm more than happy to leave them alone.Klytos 10:20, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] December 2007

Hey. Klytos. I saw the article on IA. Looks very professional. Good work on Wikipedian editing so far! Keep up the good work,--Padawan Animator (talk) 00:37, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Response.--Padawan Animator (talk) 03:16, 19 December 2007 (UTC)