Talk:Kiwi (people)

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Kiwi Polish simply alerted the average Joe to the existence of the New Zealand bird, and the connection more likely ended there. To imagine that "Kiwis" are named for the polish itself, rather than directly for the New Zealand bird (whose image was popularized by the polish), seems just a tad far-fetched. The kiwi is still the only native creature of New Zealand most folks can name. --Wetman 11:35, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Indeed, I think we need some sources on this. older≠wiser 13:00, Oct 24, 2004 (UTC)
Agreed. -Branddobbe 00:39, Oct 29, 2004 (UTC)


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[edit] Kiwi

Does this article currently cover the idea of the word, Kiwi as belonging to Kiwi's as in Kiwi Advanced Research and Education Network etc? TransControl

[edit] Polish

The Kiwi Polish Info here is inaccurate, but I think I know what they're trying to say. Roodog2k

thanks for the improvements kind sir! Papeschr 01:43, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)
My pleasure! Roodog2k 22:17, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

How could our nickname come from a brand of shoe polish? I think it came directly from the name of a bird that used to go to sleep in a satellite dish at about midnight (if you remember the Goodnight Kiwi, then surely you'll remember to consider my point of view,) and had been moved in 1991 from the 20-cent coin to the dollar (personally, I think he's much happier in his new home.) And one more thing, why do you even NEED shoe polish?

Also note that Kiwi (shoe polish) is Australian. How about we remove that paragraph, or rephrase it to: "The shoe polish brand "Kiwi" is Australian and has little to do with New Zealand. ? I also agree with the previous message that real Kiwis don't need shoe polish - many of them even run around barefoot all year. -- Yogi de 07:23, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Sources needed

We really need sources on this information. When I first made edits to this, I was really green here on Wikipedia. I never liked the whole shoe polish thing in popularizing the name Kiwi to refer to people from new Zealand... it smacks of an Urban Lagend. So, I am adding the tag to the article. Maybe a Kiwi can help us out? :-)

Roodog2k 17:50, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

It hardly seems likely that there's a citation to be found to substantiate the notion that New Zealanders are referred to as Kiwis all over the world. It's pretty anecdotal, but any Kiwi would tell you that it was the case. The prior citation may still be required and may be found with a little digging. Brent Simpson 10:43, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
Just did a quick search and found an official source http://glossary.immigration.govt.nz/Kiwis.htm Colonial from the Middle Island (talk) 10:01, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Centralise/Expand New Zealander Info?

The pakeha page has recently been expanded to include some information about (White) New Zealanders. Given that this section is practically a stub should this info be transferred/expanded upon in this section? It seems to me that aspects such as New Zealand's culture and culturally significant individuals eg Ernest Rutherford, Peter Jackson should be mentioned.

Alternatively is this page intended only as a consideration of the origin and use of the term Kiwi? If so this probably ought to be made clear.Colonial from the Middle Island (talk) 11:35, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Yes, but what about one of each?

What if a New Zealander owned one of the specific birds; do we say "a Kiwi with a kiwi" if we talk about them collectively? :) Shiggity (talk) 22:49, 28 April 2008 (UTC)