Talk:Kiteboarding

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[edit] Kiteboarding Vs Kitesurfing Vs Kite Landboarding

It seams there is a lot of confusion over these terms, among the kite groups I am in people use the term Kiteboarding to refer to flying a kite with a mountain board, and Kitesurfing to refer to the water based sport. We do not use the term Kite Landboarding at all. I changed Kiteboarding to redirect to the Kite Landboarding article as I thought a redirect to Kitesurfing was wrong. This has now been modified to the page has links to various kite based activities and I think this is now the best solution seeing as we seem to use the same term to mean a different sport in different parts of the world. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hpoom (talk • contribs) 16:08, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Reorganization of wiki pages on Kitesurfing, Kiteboarding, Landboarding, Kiteskating, Snowkiting, etc.

Currently, the wiki Kiteboarding page describes Kiteboarding as a land-based sport alternatively named Kite Landboarding. ("Kite Landboarding" is set up as a wiki referral link to the current wiki "Kiteboarding" page). Actually, AFAICT, the sport generally referred to in the real world as "Kiteboarding" is a water-based sport which has Kitesurfing an alternative name, and which has land-based and snow-based offshoots. A number of websites, publications, and organizations exist which support this interpretation of what Kiteboarding is and is not (see http://www.kiteboardingmag.com/index.jsp, http://www.ikointl.com/index1.php, http://www.ikiteboarding.com/, http://www.ikiteboarding.com/kiteboarding/articles/what-is-kiteboarding.aspx, etc.)

Besides water-based and land-based versions of Kiteboarding, a snow-based version exists which is referred to as "Kite Snowboarding" or, as "Snow Kiteboarding", or as "Snowkiting". A wiki Snowkiting page currently exists.

It appears to me that page-naming on this within wiki is out of sync with nomenclature usage in the real world. Barring strong opposition, I intend sometime in the near future to do the following in an attempt to correct this situation:

  • Move the current wiki "Kiteboarding" page to "Kite Landboarding".
  • Make a referral link from "Landboarding" to "Kite Landboarding"
  • Make a referral link from "Kiteskating" to "Kite Landboarding" (Disagree, Landboarding is too big a tag)
  • Make a referral link from "Kiteboarding" to "Kitesurfing"
  • Make a referral link from "Kite Snowboarding" to "Snowkiting"
  • Make a referral link from "Snow Kiteboarding" to "Snowkiting"
  • Do some minor edits on the "Kitesurfing", "Kite Landboarding", and "Snowkiting" pages to provide cross-referrals where needed.

Coomments? Outraged objections? Alternative suggestions? In hopes of having a single-pronged discussion on this, I ask that the discussion take place on the current Talk:Kiteboarding page.

Posted on the Talk:Kiteboarding, Talk:Kitesurfing, and Talk:Snowkiting pages -- Boracay Bill 05:34, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Do it, and be sure to address Windsport along the way. ∴ here…♠ 07:49, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
  • I Kiteboard using moutain boards and a dirtsurfer, know many kitesurfers and will help out this section.

[edit] Nomenclature: Kitesurfing vs. Kiteboarding

A few days ago, User:Tfmajor revised a Kiteboarding wikilink on the Boracay page to read Kitesurfing instead. Noting that Wiki has sepaprate pages for Kiteboarding and Kitesurfing, I revised that further to mention both names for the sport.

I am not a KiteBoarding/KiteSurfing person, and I find it confusing to have two names for what is apparently the same sport and to have separate wiki pages for each of the two names. Could these two wiki pages be combined, with the page being located at whichever is the most generally-accepted name for the sport and the link for the alternative name made a redirect link?

Note: This section was posted to talk:Tfmajor, talk:Kitesurfing and talk:Kiteboarding -- Boracay Bill 23:59, 25 July 2006 (UTC)


Boracay Bill, Kiteboarding and Kitesurfing are indeed both used to refer to Kitesurfing, but the two differenct articles on Wikipedia actually refer to different sports. THe kiteSURFING article refers to the sport as performed on water, and the kiteBOARDING article refers to a different sport, performed on land, with different equipment. :)

{User:Erik Stone:} After reading everything here I wanted to mention my experience and opinions. I've been kiteboarding for 5 years, kitesurfing for 3 years, Snowkiting for 2 years, and Kite groundboarding for 5 years. I've been teaching all of these sports for 4 years, competed in all of them, in the US and in Africa.
Kiteboarding is a general term for any type of kite sport that uses a kite and a board, ie kite groundboarding, snowkiting(includes kiteskiing, snow kiteboarding(using a snowboard)), and kitesurfing(on the water with water skiis, surfboard, kiteboard or wakeboard, or plywood for that matter). I would like to mention that technically, kiteskiing, although listed under "snowkiting" is not "kiteboarding." It is however, "snowkiting" for which about half of "snowkiters" are not kiteboarders, technically. In common use, kiteskiiers generally consider themselves part of the "kiteboarder" nomenclature, since many do both types of snowkiting.
My main points are: there aren't two different names for the same sport. Kiteboarding is the term for "kite" "boarding" on any surface. "Kitesurfing", to me, must be done on the water.{User:Erik Stone}

I agree that the naming is a bit out of tune but am unsure what to do about it. To confuse matters more, there should really also be a page on kitesailing which includes boats and ships and links to the specific sport pages. For me, kitesurfing is a good name for sailing a sailboard, surfboard or wakeboard with kites. Technically kiteboarding would be a good expression for in sheltered waters and kitesurfing for those kiteboarding in large waves. I use kiteskiing for kitesailing with skis on snow. This could also include kite-waterskiing (which I co-invented), but as nobody does this anymore, it doesn't need an own section. --Theosch (talk) 17:29, 26 March 2008 (UTC)