Talk:Kitana (Mortal Kombat)

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- What's with the edit war for Kitana's picture in the article?

- 132 lbs?! She looks a lot thinner than that. I'd say 105-120 lbs would do, because she definitely doesn't have the body weight of a male.

Contents 1 First Unasked Playable Appearance? 2 Pics of Kitana and her weapons from the movies 3 Kitana's Age 4 Mortal Kombat Deception Unchained 5 external link 6 Conquest role 7 Kitana's fatality 8 Fair use rationale for Image:KKKK.jpg 9 Fair use rationale for Image:Kitana unc01.png 10 Fair use rationale for Image:MK083.jpg 11 Storyline 12 Her fans

[edit] First Unasked Playable Appearance?

What is that supposed to mean? (see UMK3 pic caption)

Even if you meant to say "unmasked", I don't recall her being without a mask in UMK3.

[edit] Pics of Kitana and her weapons from the movies

Shouldn't there be images of Kitana from the MK movies? --User:Angie Y.

[edit] Kitana's Age

IIRC, wasn't Kitana described as "over 10,000 years old" in MK3? Then she should have no specific age.Virogtheconq 04:10, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mortal Kombat Deception Unchained

Can someone make mention of the fact that she will appear in the PSP port of Mortal Kombat Deception? Check IGN.com for more info.

• Done.

[edit] external link

the external link provided doesn't have real content - if you go to the sub-pages (ie on the left), it goes to a page identical to the home one.

• Link removed. Virogtheconq 16:48, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Conquest role

I added accurate information for all three of Kitana's MKC episodes, including actresses, appearance, and plots. AtenRa 13:53, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kitana's fatality

Am I permitted to add a "Kiss of Doom"-fatality video to her fatality from youtube? Morris Munroe 15:47, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Who has created the "Kiss of Doom"-fatality where the opponent blows up until he explodes? Morris Munroe 15:58, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:KKKK.jpg

Image:KKKK.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If there is other other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images uploaded after 4 May, 2006, and lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.BetacommandBot 04:40, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Kitana unc01.png

Image:Kitana unc01.png is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If there is other other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images uploaded after 4 May, 2006, and lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.BetacommandBot 10:52, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:MK083.jpg

Image:MK083.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

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[edit] Storyline

I've removed the "Storyline" section, which had been marked as overlong. The story related to Kitana belongs, if anywhere, on the articles of the relevant works featuring her. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tony Sidaway (talk • contribs) 17:55, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

- That's retarded. Story is a key thing in Mortal Kombat and if you're going to remove the storyline section for Kitana, you might as well remove it for all other MK characters as well. I never understood why the section was marked as overlong anyway. That was her storyline. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.187.255.154 (talk) 19:22, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Am I wrong when I say that the storyline will be covered in the relevant articles? --Tony Sidaway 20:44, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

- What relevant articles? And how do you define "revelant?" It makes sense for each characters' individual page to have a section that tells their individual storyline. I can see this in action not even just in Mortal Kombat, but characters for Street Fighter, DOA, Tekken, etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.187.255.154 (talk) 21:37, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

By "relevant" I mean articles about games or films in which Kitana features as a character having a storyline. We have an article on Mortal Kombat, which explains the overall role of Kitana in the stories. Descriptions of plot elements involving Kitana also feature in the articles Mortal Kombat (film), Mortal Kombat: Annihilation, Mortal Kombat: Deadly Alliance, and Mortal Kombat II. --Tony Sidaway 21:52, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

- Those articles barely touch on Kitana's individual story and the movies' storyline is completely different from the games' story. Hence why each character should have their own individual storyline section to fully explain that character's role and importance/relevance to the storyline. The sections on Mortal Kombat, Mortal Kombat II, and Mortal Kombat: Deadly Alliance make no mention of Kitana being raised by Shao Kahn herself. They don't explain how she served him until she learned the truth about her past. They don't explain how she dealt with Mileena, Jade, Sindel, Reptile, etc. This is crucial information about Kitana herself that should be placed in her own article. And the same should apply to any other character in the series. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.187.255.154 (talk) 22:21, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

I've opened an RFC on this question. I'll be interested to see what other people think. On the points you make, since this is a fictional person perhaps it is the case that the details that aren't important enough to be considered relevant to those articles do not belong in an encyclopedia, simply because they have no external relevance. --Tony Sidaway 22:33, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

- If that's the case, then why does any fictional character have their own page? The summeries on the other articles only give a very broad and general gist of the story. Some don't even delve into the many other individual characters. So if someone wanted to find out the storyline and/or role of Kitana...or any other character...in paticular, where would they go then? And if that sort of thing isn't considered important enough to keep, then shouldn't every fictional characters' article be removed? Why should Luke Skywalker get his own page when surely all relevant information about him can be found in the Star Wars, Empire Strikes Back, or Return of the Jedi articles? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.187.255.154 (talk • contribs) 00:10, 13 February 2008

That's a very good question. I'll answer it by saying that I don't think it's necessarily appropriate to give a blow-by-blow account of every scene in which a character is involved. In the case of Luke Skywalker, for instance, his parentage, orphaning at birth, uneventful childhood, and subsequent events can be recapped fairly briefly--I'd estimate that 500 words or less would be sufficient. The bulk of the article would be taken up with his appearances in different films, the official merchandising that has been used to promote the Lucas films (action figures, posters, playsuits, etc) live appearances of actors in the role, spin-off novels he appears in and (of course) his significance in wider popular culture (satirical representations, tributes, etc).

Now getting back to Kitana, we have a quite good "Background" section, which I think does a good job of establishing Kitana's role in-universe. Then we have a "Storyline" section which is a detailed, blow-by-blow account of Kitana's life. This runs to nearly 1300 words. It could easily be trimmed down, for instance:

First appearing in Mortal Kombat II as Shao Kahn's personal assassin and daughter, Kitana has actually discovered quite early on that she is really the daughter of the usurped king Jerrod, but keeps her own counsel and cooperates with Shao Kahn, biding her time. Her twin, Mileena, is actually an evil clone originally created to replace her but instead used to spy on her. In Mortal Kombat II, Mileena discovers that Kitana is not loyal to Shao Kahn, they fight and Kitana kills Mileena. Some of Kitana's backstory is also told in Mortal Kombat: Shaolin Monks.

Sentenced to death for treason and Mileena's murder, Kitana escapes and joins the warriors of Earth. Sindel, her dead mother, has been resurrected, and with her loyal friend Jade, Kitana removes the taint of evil from Sindel's soul. Sindel leaves Shao Kahn, leading to his defeat at the hands of Liu Kang.

That's a compressed version of the first 500 words. There should be more in the above relating to games in the Mortal Kombat series, of course, but I hope you get the idea. It isn't necessary to include every little thing about the story. The basics can be given in one-third of the space used in the current "Storyline" section. --Tony Sidaway 12:18, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Her fans

Anyone have good pictures of the various design for Kitana's war fans? Angie Y. (talk) 22:29, 9 May 2008 (UTC)