Talk:Kirpal Singh
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[edit] Hinduism
I just read the FAQ on what the Lost bot is doing vis a vis tagging WP Hindusim articles. I think it is safe to remove the Hindusim tag here since Sant Kirpal was not a Hindu (not by a long shot). If someone wants to insist, they can add it in manually. User:Sevadar 23:54, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
According to sources in India, Gurinder ji know as Rada Soami- leader has now openly admitted to helping the young and vulnerable boys of India. He believes he can help these boys to recognise their full potential in life. He beliefs in ‘giving it to the boys’, as part of his charity work. However due to the fact, he is a practising homosexual, serious concerns have been raised by locals in relation to his activates in the camps he runs. Among reports of bathing the boys himself, as he believes in a ‘hands on’ approach to spirituality. There have been reports he dresses up the boys in female dresses, as he believes there is no man or woman but just a shell.
He is often seen walking around with young vulnerable boys with him. Gurinder ji has several male partners, his closet homosexual partner is a convert from Islam, a African called Abdul. Gurinder ji believes man should be free to walk around naked, and often does when he is at home with young boys. Over the last few years there has been a steady flow of departures by some of his older follows as they now question his teaching. They often talk about how Gurinder ji would go into trance, then force himself on them. Gurinder ji’s father, Maharaja Charan Singh a.k.a “Gaylord”, himself a rampant bi-sexual installed most of his beliefs to his own son. The Indian police state that they are investing Gurinder’s life style and do comment they are concerned why such a homosexual should have such contact with young boys. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.193.240.41 (talk) 16:18, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Copyright
I took this article in a book which did not show any copyright and had no connection to the Lamblion institute. If there is a copyright on it I was not aware of it. I did not research who was the original writer but was told by others using the same book that they were always happy to be published anywhere.
- Granted, Lamblion isn't the only site with that text, but it must be established that whomever is the original author has released it under terms compatible with the GFDL license. Just because the book does not say it is copyrighted does not make it free to use. -- Hadal 02:23, 8 May 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Sant Kirpal Singh and Copyright
All books and other publication of Sant Kirpal Singh are originally published with no rights reserved because he mentioned that nobody can copyright the Truth since it is for everybody and must be free like the light of sun and the air we breath. There are some commercial editions (e.g. German translations published by Origo Verlag, Swiss) that have a Copyright, but this Copyright is only applicable on just their books, and never on the original (English) source. All books, brochures and other publications by Ruhani Satsang USA [1] should therefore be without Copyright and also all publications by Unity of Man [2] explicitly mention that there are no rights reserved. So everybody is allowed to freely copy the words of Sant Kirpal without any restriction (except from commercial translations).
Naturally, anybody who follows the spirit of Sant Kirpal Singh will also publish the works of Sant Kirpal Singh with no rights reserved.
At the Ruhani Satsang Website [3] you can find most of Sant Kirpal Singhs publications online, even most of his books.
[edit] Related information
To understand more about the terms "Sant" or "competent Master" as well as the criterias how to discriminate a Sant or perfect Master from a so-called (or fake) "master" I would advise to carefully read the book "Godman" by Sant Kirpal Singh available here: [4] or as zipped PDF file here: [5] as well as the talk "How I met my Master" by Sant Kirpal Singh here: [6], etc.
May 15, 1974, three month after the World Conference on Unity of Man Sant Kirpal Singh wrote his last circular letter "On the Unity of Man" (available here: [7] and here: [8]) where he clearly explained his intentions for the future Mission (the "worldwide campaign for Unity of Man"). See also follow up letter of Reno H. Sirrine dated August 20, 1974 (one day before Master left the body) available here: [9].
To know more about the happenings before and after Sant Kirpal Singh left the body, including the issue of "successors" one should read the report of Dr. Harbhajan Singh (AKA "Bhaji") with the title "Sant Kirpal Singh - His Mission in the Golden Age " here: [10].
More information on Dr. Harbhajan Singh and his relation with Sant Kirpal Singh can be found in his talk "How we came to Master" here: [11].
Kind regards
Gerhard Hossinger ( g D0T hossinger ATT gmail D0T com )
--192.121.70.242 17:35, 4 Aug 2004 (UTC) + 2006-10-18
While born in the Sikh religion, Sant Kirpal Singh (as all other Saints and competent Masters) never taught any outer religion but only the Universal Teaching which is the essence of all social religions. Naturally, he had respect for all religions and encouraged people to stay in their religion, but live up to the ideal of the religion, to become a true Christion, true Hindu, true Muslim, etc.
We are all human first, and the outer religions are schools of thoughts where the objective is that we practically learn the subject and reach the Ultimate Goal — God. Naturally that school is best which turns out most successful students.
--192.121.70.242 2006-10-18 19:02 MET
