User talk:Kinneytj

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Kinneytj --

   While I generally agree with your assessment of the Norvergence situation, and that your information is generally historically correct, I have to object to the highly editorial tone you have taken. My guess is that you are a former employee of the company, and are using this forum to grind an axe. I, too, am a former employee of Norvergence at a fairly high level. I do not intend to defend Tom or Peter or any of the business practices, but I do believe that this article should be presented based on facts, and not emotion, as you have done in several instances. For example, this entire paragraph is rife with emotion, and could only (I imagine) have been written by someone who went through that awful day. However, it does not conform to the style to which Wikipedia strives to adhere. Just wanted to let you know that I will be re-writing this paragraph at some point in the near future. I will do my best to maintain the integrity of the story, while removing that glaring bias.

YOU WROTE: Once Norvergence had moved into as many regional markets as possible and pitched every business in the area, Norvergence would sell the leasing agreements to banks (ex. Wells Fargo), and the banks would be left with the leasing agreements that forced customers to continue to pay for the hardware leases for 5 years. Since Norvergence received their money up front from the banks, once they had hit every market possible, they just closed up shop. (****THIS IS NOT TRUE. NORVEGENCE CLOSED UP SHOP BECAUSE THEY WERE FORCED INTO BANKRUPTCY BY THE BANKS. IT WAS NOT A DECISION THAT TOM OR PETER MADE ON THEIR OWN -- THEY WERE FORCED INTO IT.) They literally walked into their corporate headquarters out of the blue one day (IT CERTAINTLY WASN'T OUT OF THE BLUE. BY THE TIME THIS INFAMOUS DAY HAPPENED, EVERYONE IN THE COMPANY, RIGHT DOWN TO THE PEOPLE WHO EMPTIED THE GARBAGE CANS KNEW WHAT WAS COMING. REMEMBER THAT LESS THAN TWO WEEKS PRIOR, QWEST HAD SHUT DOWN NORV'S ENTIRE NETWORK AS A WARNING SHOT.), told everyone in the office that the company was shutting down, they would not be getting any severance pay, or even their last salary check, and that the employees had one hour to leave the premises !! (EXCLAMATION POINTS IN AN UNBIASED ARTICLE AUTOMATICALLY MAKE THE ARTICLE BIASED -- THEY DEMONSTRATE EMOTION.) Understandably (UNDERSTANDABLY TO WHOM? JUST STATE THE FACTS. THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO DID NOT UNDERSTAND WHY THIS WAS A NEAR RIOT.) , this caused a near riot at the headquarters, and police had to be called in after disgruntled employees began ransacking the place (RANSACKING THE OFFICE? THE BUILDING?). Norvergence stopped installations, cut off service to customers already receiving it, and stopped making payments to its suppliers. (I BELIEVE THAT MOST OF THIS HAD OCCURED SEVERAL DAYS, IF NOT WEEKS BEFORE THE DAY YOU DESCRIBE. PROBABLY AROUND THE SAME TIME THEY STOPPED PAYING THEIR PAYROLL TAXES TO THE FEDS...)

This paragraph is the most biased of the entire article, but much of the rest is suspect. Just wanted to advise you to look for changes in the next few days.

Cheers, Kevinsprnt

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