User talk:Kingseason

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[edit] Word2MediaWikiPlus

Looking at your earlier question, it seems as though you were asking about how to create an article using Word. In the process, you have created an article called Word2MediaWikiPlus. Is this a program you used to format the article you created? It's fairly unreadable in its current state, but if the subject is notable someone with more experience can help you clean it up. Is this what happened? You can leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions. Leebo86 18:01, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

The move is complete, and the article is now located at Robert Ira Lewy. Just wanted to make sure you knew what happened to it, in case you couldn't find it again. Leebo86 18:41, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Lee. Kingseason 18:52, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

  • Yeah, we can continue when you get back. That should be fine. Wikify and cleanup are close in meaning. Wikify means to bring the article closer to the Manual of Style guidelines for how an article should look. That link you mentioned regarding the backlog indicates articles that need wikifying, but doesn't define it well. Cleanup is a process where users look at "messy" articles. Like I said, they're both similar, and the tags really just alert people to an article in need of help; the more people the better. Leebo86 02:07, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. BTW, since these articles are open to peer editing anyhow, please have at it. Lets not stand on protocol.Kingseason 02:24, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Was this you?

Was this edit to my talk page posted by you? The IP address has no other contributions, so I'm assuming you probably didn't realize you weren't logged in. If that's the case, I'll review the article, and I'll try to clean it up a bit. It doesn't look like anyone else has done that yet. Leebo86 19:46, 16 February 2007 (UTC) Yes, Thanks, It was I, and I wasn't logged in. Please edit to your hearts content, and thank you so much.

I just tried cleaning it up and I'm not even sure where to start. Have you looked at other biographical articles to see how they are usually written? There's a standard format (Wikipedia:Manual of Style). I'm going to have trouble rewriting it without making substantial changes to things you wrote. You should review Wikipedia:Citing sources for an idea of how inline citations work. You also need to add double brackets [[like this]] around important words and terms.
I have another question, and don't take offence, but what is your relation to Mr. Lewy? The article is written in an extremely extensive manner, but only the academic portions are cited with sources, not the facts of personal history. Leebo86 16:57, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for looking at it again. Leebo. Would you mind making a pass at it? I understand substantial changes are needed. I thought I had it covered. The syntax is a little intimidating; that was the idea of the WordtoWiki program I used. I think you understand the essential thrust of the article. I am Dr Lewy's research assistant; so I am familiar with his academic accomplishments, and hunted down the newspaper references, philanthrophy and so on from him. BestKingseason 20:16, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] It's not deleted

But the redirect from Word2MediaWikiPlus was deleted. It's here at Robert Ira Lewy. Leebo T/C 17:15, 19 March 2007 (UTC) Thank you as always.Kingseason 17:30, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of Robert Ira Lewy

Hi, Kingseason. I apologize for doing this without consulting you again, but it's been several months since the article was created and I'm still not sure that Dr. Lewy meets our notability requirements. I've started a discussion about the article at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Robert Ira Lewy. You may make any arguments there. This is not a gesture of ill will, and the best case scenario of this will be that someone rewrites the article to meet our standards. Right now, I don't feel that I can do that. One of the factors in my decision to nominate it was your conflict of interest with Dr. Lewy. Leebo T/C 13:13, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi Kingseason. I have seen your request for deletion, but there's not really anything I can do about it. The community has to decide through the discussion. Even from a purely technical standpoint, I couldn't delete any page because I'm not an administrator. I'm sorry if recent developments with the article have caused Dr. Lewy displeasure. Leebo T/C 18:04, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
There are a couple of issues at work. Firstly, once a contribution is made, it belongs to the community. This means that the article, and any content added to it, is decided by the community, while individual users or the subjects usually do not have a final say in what is included. While it's understandable for Dr. Lewy to intend the article to be a certain way, it's also a conflict of interest for a Wikipedian to include or exclude information based on personal ties to the subject. I don't mean to sound like I'm giving you a hard time, but for better or worse, your account is what Wikipedia defines as a single purpose account, and your goal was to fulfill Dr. Lewy's request. Then we have Marciamaria, another single purpose account, whose goal is obviously to undermine the positive aspects of Dr. Lewy's biography with relevant negative information and irrelevant negative personal information like Dr. Lewy's past wives. In that way, my preference would be for the article to be deleted, since it was a conflict of interest to begin with, and the opposing user wishes only to highlight negative things because she appears to have a personal vendetta with Dr. Lewy (also a likely conflict of interest). But, now that it's been introduced to the community, other editors have begun to contribute and spoken that they feel he is notable enough to have an entry once they make it neutral. The deletion discussion will be sorted out by an administrator shortly, it's due to be decided tomorrow. Given the conflict of interests, I'm going to ask that you and Marciamaria do not edit the article, and if it is kept I'll make sure that it gets reduced to something that applies due weight to the relevant issues. Leebo T/C 20:25, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
Articles are very rarely "locked" from editing (our term is protection) and when it happens it's for large groups of users, such as semi-protection to keep anonymous users from editing and full-protection to keep all users except admins from editing. Regarding the deletion discussion, the decision that the admin is going to make is whether or not consensus exists to delete the article or to keep it. If it is deleted, I think you and Marciamaria would be happy, but I'm not sure that will happen. If it is kept, you are not explicitly prohibited from editing it, but it's discouraged to edit with a conflict of interest, particularly when the issue is disputed. It's not a big deal if, say Tiger Woods, makes a Wikipedia account to say "Hey, you guys got my birthday wrong," and changes it. But if he wanted to edit the article that to further promote himself, it would be inappropriate and he'd be asked to stop. Basically, no you can't be kept from editing it specifically, but if you did decide to go against the guideline for conflicts of interest and edit it you could possibly be blocked for disruption, which would apply to all articles, not just Dr. Lewy's. Leebo T/C 20:43, 13 April 2007 (UTC)