Talk:Kingston student ghetto
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[edit] two links
there are two links that i believe should be added. User:72.38.139.247 / User:Jsp3970 (same person) seems to disagree.
the first, is a link to a tenant's resource page: http://www.jessandewen.ca/rentals/tenant_resources.html the tenant's resource page is on a site i run that offers a service, however the page in question is designed to inform tenant's of their rights with the hope that educated tenants will hold landlords to account.
the second, a link to the AMS run municipal affairs commission "golden cockroach" website: http://www.myams.org/mac/studenthousingcommittee in a similar fashion, this award is designed to bring slumlords and sub-par housing to the forefront.
i'm not really sure what happens next. i know what jsp is going to say but i welcome others input.
thanks. ewen Emackinnon 23:44, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
- The first link is to User:Emackinnon's personal website, which goes against Wikipedia:External links and is not allowed. The same page advertises his rental properties in Kingston. As per Wikipedia:External links "You should avoid linking to a website that you own, maintain or represent, even if the guidelines otherwise imply that it should be linked." The second link is to a site that list an individual in a negative light, naming him as a slumlord. These links are POV and derogatory to the individual. No matter what an individual has done Wikipedia is not the place for this kind of thing. 72.38.139.247 00:54, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] POV
I came across this article via ANI, and this is looking more and more like an article of social commentary on what is otherwise a non-notable place. The language really needs to be cleaned up. Tenant rights or the lack of knowledge thereof has nothing to do with writing an encyclopedia article. Links aside, the weaseling needs to go, and there needs to be some assertion of notability. MSJapan 15:02, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] notable
MSJapan you are quite right, it is a rather non-notable place for just about everyone except those people who have lived there, which is why I couldn't figure out why anyone really cared what links there were. what would you propose as an "assertion of notability"?? The place is a student village, that's it... nothing really to assert.
i'll work on cleaning it up and making it more of a quality article.Emackinnon 15:57, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
- There are specific notability guidelines here, but it is rather a matter of balance as well, because you need to consider the policies of verifiability and reliability of sources (click the links for more info). As for external links, Wikipedia has policies on that as well, located at WP:EL. It just may turn out that this place doesn't meet the qualifications for an article. MSJapan 23:41, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
Pretty much everything on that page is reliable and verifiable, just ask anyone who lives or who has lived there. I don't think anyone is disputing the facts. The links that are on the page currently are all in line with Wikipedia's linking policy. Thank you for sharing the notability guidelines. Clearly this place qualifies, just like any town or section of a large city does. Thanks for your advice. Emackinnon 15:17, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Article Issues
This article needs a big clean up. "commonly referred to by students are 'slumlords'" I currently attended Queen's and I would not say this is a common phrase (I haven't heard it). "and the scent of marijuana is common" also this line is just ridiculous. I think this articles needs to be rewritten to address more the historic background.--J2000ca 23:03, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
Have you read the Queen's Journal? Have you discussed housing issues with other students? Many landlords are referred to as slumlords; hence the creation of the AMS Golden Cockroach Awards. Rather than criticize, as a current Queen's student and resident of the Ghetto why don't you offer up some higher quality content? 216.94.200.61 22:57, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Notability
Why is the notability of this article being brought up again? Yes the article is in need of some work but the notability issue was decided a year ago here. Please remove the notability issue from the article. Jmackinn 07:56, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
- I'd say that all we have to do is add a couple of the discussion's links to newspapers and committee meetings. Once those are in there, notability will be self-evident and we can take down the notice. --Arctic Gnome (talk • contribs) 01:13, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
References are added, how do we removed the tags?? 24.226.50.171 22:58, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
- No they're not. You need multiple non-trivial reliable sources per WP:V and WP:RS. I'm far from convinced "Kingston student ghetto" is a term used outside the student community (5 Google hits, 3 of which are Wikipedia/mirrors?!) so let's see some references from at the very least the independent local newspaper. As far as I can see, you've made an article on an insignificant local issue. Many towns the world over have student ghettos; few if any get Wikipedia articles. --kingboyk (talk) 13:43, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
