Talk:Kings Cross, London

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Please note that there is no apostrophe in "Kings Cross".

Reference: http://eur-op.eu.int/code/en/en-4100213en.htm

The Anome

Oh dear. It looks like I have b*llsing it up left, right, and centre then. Sorry. I was somewhat misled by some of what I found on the web (including the local developers' site!) but if it's good enough for ODWE then it's good enough for me. I see that I have created a nightmare of nonworking redirects and G*d knows what, I can;t sort it all out now but will have another look later (in the sneaky hope that someone with more brains than me will have done so already!)

Whoops, and sorry!

Nevilley 08:52 Nov 29, 2002 (UTC)


Here's the story so far:

  • Kings Cross is the name for the surrounding area, as supported by both style guides and general usage.
  • Google searches also say that Kings Cross station is more common that King's Cross station
  • King's Cross is the "official" signage for the stations
  • but Kings Cross is the "official" usage in the timetable database, as well as being used on other "official" raliway pages: joyously, the official station page at [1] uses both styles

The Anome 09:41 Nov 29, 2002 (UTC)

I have a seemingly official map of central London, which I bought at one of the stations there - almost certainly Liverpool Street. It shows both the underground and overground stations and their connections. And it has "King's Cross" with an apostrophe all over it! I'm actually travelling on the London Underground today. I'll be sure to take a slight detour just to check that the signs at the station still have an apostrophe. Oh, the things I do for the Wikipedia... ;) -- Oliver Pereira 09:50 Nov 29, 2002 (UTC)

The Railway station certainly is signed King's Cross, as I said. I'll take a look at the tube station signs later today, but I expect it to be signed tha same way as the Tube map, with an apostrophe. The question is which defines language, "official" usage (ambiguous), signage (apostrophes) or common usage (no apostrophes)? The Anome 09:58 Nov 29, 2002 (UTC)

Also, I seem to remember reading somewhere that the name of the surrounding area pre-dates the use of the apostrophe in English to denote the possessive. I have no idea if this is actually true. The Anome 10:00 Nov 29, 2002 (UTC)

Oh, okay. I don't really know about the "common usage". But my AA Road Atlas of the British Isles 2001 (published 2000) calls the surrounding area "King's Cross" with an apostrophe as well. Just to add to the confusion. ;) -- Oliver Pereira 10:21 Nov 29, 2002 (UTC)


I've added a couple of links and a note end par.1 (this may have broken the grammar - apologies). I wasn't sure whether to cross reference Kings Cross station again. KX is currently under intense development. I'm not sure whether material of related interest belongs on the page though.

rsaum 10:46 May 03, 2004

>>Tagishsimon (Amending external links. Nice try with the blog, but I don't think a couple of photos and a cut & paste cut it, do you?)

ok- It's actually a photoblog dedicated to KX, and what I do there, ie make art. A bit more than a couple of photos, I thought it might broaden the idea of what KX is about.

rsaum 23:27 May 03, 2004


[edit] electoral ward (to add confusion)

The electoral ward is called King's Cross and is entirely within Camden. It is also south of Euston Road, West of King's Cross Road/Farringdon Road, North of Calthorpe St/Guildford Street and East of Woburn Place. This is way south of the area described in the article and of a different character being mostly residential and including a large number of hotels.Piersmasterson 15:26, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Stations

"Nearby underground stations:

King's Cross St. Pancras tube station Mornington Crescent tube station Angel tube station Euston station Euston Square tube station Farringdon station Caledonian Road tube station Russell Square tube station"

That's rather a lot of stations, are they really all nearby? Russell Square? Lfh 11:09, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Area of Kings Cross Central

There are serious inaccuracies regarding the area for the Kings Cross Central devlopment in the article. The site is huge and the development will be the largest London has seen in 150yrs (I have heard it claimed). Moreover, the heart (and bulk) of it will be Kings Cross Goodsyard. The Goodsyard is barely mentioned in the article but is the historic heart of the area in many ways. Re Goodsyard (capitalized), Kings Cross Goodsyard becomes Kings Cross Central (symmetry). I'll edit the info I've mentioned when I've time. Rsaum 20:54, 31 December 2006 (UTC)