Talk:Kingdom of Strathclyde

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The map of post-Roman southern Scotland from William Forbes Skene's Four Ancient Books of Wales (1868) is charming but almost invisible. Deipnosophista 21:22, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Try clicking on it.potatoscone 07:51, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Map discussion

Yorkshirian recently added this new version of an old map to this article; it was removed by Deacon of Pndapetzim and re-added by Yorkshirian. I'd like to replace it with this map instead, which doesn't use boundaries. The changes were made to several articles, so to centralize discussion, please post at Talk:Mercia#Map if you have an opinion. Mike Christie (talk) 02:44, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Hey, good idea. I won't respond to each individual post, but yes, your map is better for a whole range of reasons ... some of which you already mentioned; it should be used instead of the inaccurate one. I'd replace "Strathclyde" with "Alt Clut" (we're talking 800 here), and try as hard as possible not imply control beyond the Clyde valley (it's floating over Kyle and Carrick atm); also I'd replace "Northern Picts" with Fortriu, and delete Southern Picts (again, it's 800 rather than 700). I don't, incidentally, see why maps should be allowed to contain inaccuracies any more than text. Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 03:02, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

OK -- I'm going to cut and paste your comment to the Talk:Mercia#Maps location, since that's where the main discussion is meant to be; hope that's OK. I will go ahead and make the changes to the map and reupload it soon. Can you at some point give me a source that supports those changes? I did the English and Welsh bits based on Campbell (I think it was); the stuff in Scotland came from a conversation with Angus and no doubt I didn't transcribe it perfectly. I'd like to add source info to the image page. Thanks -- Mike Christie (talk) 03:14, 10 January 2008 (UTC)