Talk:Kingdom Hearts II

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:KingdomHeartsIICover.jpg

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[edit] FA Nomination

Just wanted to get an idea about how everyone felt about going for FA with this article. I've been trying to find some Japanese critical response, but have been running into walls again. If someone else can find some more content, we can put it off. What does everyone think, should we just go for it and see if we have enough, or wait and try to find some more? (Guyinblack25 16:17, 17 July 2007 (UTC))

We should just expand Japanese critical reception before I nominate this myself. Greg Jones II 14:19, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
I have added a hidden message to the top of the plot reminding other users not to add unnecessary information. This should stop many other users in doing so. Greg Jones II 14:22, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
Personally, I think we have a little bit more than the first KH did and it passed. I'm willing to see how this article would fair for FAC, but want to get opinions from everyone too. Of course if someone can expand it further, go for it, that'll only improve the chance of it passing. Any other thoughts? (Guyinblack25 14:30, 18 July 2007 (UTC))
We should add additional context in some parts if we can. I will self-nominate this one myself. Greg Jones II 14:52, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
I've now nominated this article for FA status at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Kingdom Hearts II. Any comments there would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Greg Jones II 22:19, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
Also, wikilinking needs to be fixed. Greg Jones II 22:27, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
Before it becomes an FA, it will have to be peer reviewed first. Greg Jones II 23:56, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Automated PR

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You may wish to browse through User:AndyZ/Suggestions for further ideas. Thanks, Davnel03 13:38, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Any of these suggestions would be very much appreciated for FA. Thanks. Greg Jones II 12:24, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Article promoted!

Congrats everyone. The bot will be here shortly to update the article history. Axem Titanium 18:57, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Congrats as well. I have now requested a peer review for Kingdom Hearts (series) at Wikipedia:Peer review/Kingdom Hearts (series)/archive1. Greg Jones II 19:00, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

I guess it isn't a false alarm after all. It's nice to see KH articles be promoted to FA. Ah well, I'll go update the WikiProjects now. DiamondDragon DESU 19:03, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Congrats on work on this art. I am ashamed to say I was not here to see it promoted. Lets get it front page on the aniversery of it's release, shall we? Quatreryukami 18:50, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
That doesn't sound like a bad idea. Though truthfully I'd prefer the first game to be on the front page with it's fifth NA anniversary coming up. But I must admit that this is the better written article in the series. Kudos to the copy editors that really made this article shine. (Guyinblack25 talk 21:59, 25 August 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Final Mix+: Jan 1st

I heard that Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix + was supposed to come out in the U.S. on Jan 1st 2008. Is this true? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.181.50.107 (talk) 22:33, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Jan 1st is probably a game retailer's placeholder release date (who the hell would release a game on Jan 1st anyway? There would be no employees to sell it!). Such stores are simply making educated guesses as to approximately when a game is coming out and have no authority on the issue. Axem Titanium 01:04, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
I just checked IGN and GameSpot and they haven't announced anything like that. Sorry, but you may have heard it from a source that is saying that based on wishful thinking. (Guyinblack25 talk 14:27, 31 August 2007 (UTC))
When Final Mix is released in America i think we should get all three games. i mean in a bundle we should get Kingdom Hearts Final Mix,Kingdom Hearts Re:Chain of Memories,and Kingdom Hearts II final mix.That way we get all the parts of the game and story the Japanese get —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.74.112.129 (talk) 21:38, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] KH2 Secret Ending

Just a thought but could we include a section about the secret ending in Kingdom Hearts 2? It may not be revelent to the plot but there is a lot of information in the secret ending that may be revelant to a future Kingdom Hearts much the way Kingdom Hearts 1 secret ending connected directly to the second game. 65.124.8.131 15:07, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Without proper sources and citation, any information we place in the article can be considered as original research, which is not allowed on Wikipedia. We've placed what information we could at Kingdom Hearts (series)#Future installments. (Guyinblack25 talk 15:37, 4 September 2007 (UTC))

I personnly think that we should Poohman0 (talk) 01:54, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Room mods section

it was deleted, but anyway. i was supposedly trying to say that there might be some connection of this game with Castle Oblivion or the place where they meet or something. can anyone give ideas on what reliable source i can put like google or a site?. are screenshots of any of the mentioned secret rooms be placed? reply. any additional messages can be left on my talk page.Moogle 12 (talk) 06:57, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

To be honest, I don't remember coming across any mention of room mods when searching for information on the game. It could be most gaming news sites either don't know about it or didn't think it was notable enough to mention. Sometimes just searching the net is the only way to find stuff like that, and there's no guarantee of finding a reliable source. (Guyinblack25 talk 18:21, 23 January 2008 (UTC))

Oh, okay, I just found a video of it on YouTube, thought I might post the link as one of the notes, but anyway. Do you think it's agreeable if I can out this in the Universe of Kingdom Hearts? Thanks in advance.Moogle 12 (talk) 12:03, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Unfortunately, YouTube is not really considered a reliable source. This is because the content is user created and submitted, with very little monitoring by the site. Maybe check to see if Game Trailers has some video about it that was made and posted by the staff. (Guyinblack25 talk 13:21, 5 February 2008 (UTC))

Found no game trailers to help support this fact. Took all night actually but anyways. Guess it's just a cheat code to make you go in that place. Thank you very much Guyinblack25!!!Moogle 12 (talk) 09:00, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] World That Never Was wasn't introduced in KH2, but the first one

We could just start exploring it as the last world in the second game.

I had changed it to reflect that it was a backdrop in the "Another Side, Another Story" secret ending movie, yet someone doesn't think that is the case because it is "unsourced".

Needing help in satisfying the masses of actually sourcing a WIDLY known fact (can't believe I'm actually having to stress that. Can't believe I'm actually saying that we have to actually source this). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Darkpower (talk • contribs) 11:10, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

It's not notable. Axem Titanium (talk) 14:53, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
I'm going to have to agree with Axem. A piece of information like that isn't too notable. By notable, we mean that it hasn't really been mentioned in published works, like online or printed gaming articles. That and the exclusion of it doesn't really hurt the article or make it any less comprehensive. We not arguing the factual accuracy of it, we're arguing it's importance. If you do happen to find a reliable source for it though, please feel free to add it to Universe of Kingdom Hearts. (Guyinblack25 talk 17:14, 27 January 2008 (UTC))

[edit] Lock

I think this page needs to be locked, there has been constant vandalism to this page, what do you guys think about lockin this baby up King Rock Go 'Skins! 01:06, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Sadly, this is actually kind of normal for the KH articles. The vandalism is pretty random and is coming from different IP addresses, so it's not really enough to get the page semi-protected—though it isn't any less pathetic or annoying. We normally wait for the vandals to get bored, and then wait for the next batch in a couple months. This is just one of the sadder and sillier aspects of Wikipedia; people that are simply too bored or empty to do something constructive. (Guyinblack25 talk 14:32, 29 April 2008 (UTC))