Talk:Kinderwhore

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This doesnt really say what it is

"...Grunge and Riot Grrl had both emanated from the D.C. rock scene" i guess you should write "washington" (state) instead of D.C., shouldn't you?

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[edit] Picture

Aa picture would pass far more information than writing for this kind of an article. If someone has a picture that depict the fashion, please upload it here wkm

Hmmm, Shonen Knife's first album was in 1983...and their look has pretty much been the same since the beginning, I think? It seems hard to credit these people with their look. Also, Babes in Toyland recorded one of the songs on the Shonen Knife tribute album (see the Shonen Knife article for details), so it seems likely the influence was mostly the other direction. I'm deleting that sentence. --Skalchemist 14:03, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Origin of the name

I´m curious to the origin of the name kinderwhore. A whore child would be in dutch kinderhoer, where kinder stands for child.

The kinder in this has been picked up from things like kindergarden and kinder surprise. Its not a direct reference to the dutch. Bride of lister 09:11, 3 January 2007 (UTC)


Kinder means 'child' in german. so, 'Child Whore.' Dutch is a germanic language.

[edit] forever

kinderwhore and riot grrl are "forever linked?" Where is the citation for that? It sounds to me like hyperbole since the article is about a very small and short-lived niche fashion trend which is already dead and gone.

[edit] The Slits?

The Slits are precursors of Hole&Babes in Toyland musically, in attitude and image. Looking at photo's from the early 80's, especially [1], for instance the photo [2] you see all the characteristics of the Kinderwhore-look (the combination of innocence with provocative sexuality). Is this far-fetched, or could we add this to the article?

Btw, I think derivation from Kindergarten likely; in form it may well be Dutch (kinderliedje=children's song), but it seems an American term and Kindergarten is a known term there, in contrast to Dutch compound words. It would be interesting to track its first use in the press.

WvdPut 13:06, 30 September 2007 (UTC) (from Amsterdam)

the slits connection is not far fetched

[edit] Pronounciation

Should you really be using a compound word that uses the word being defined as a key for pronouncation? Saying "kinder is pronounced like kinder" isn't exactly helpful, which is what the comparison to "kindergarten" is essentially doing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.246.234.24 (talk) 06:12, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

it's meant to differentiate it from the long i pronunciation kind of whore —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.125.110.223 (talk) 18:27, 11 January 2008 (UTC)