Talk:Kind of Blue

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Article requirements:
YesY All the start class criteria
YesY A completed infobox, including cover art and most technical details
YesY At least one section of prose (excluding the lead section)
YesY A track listing containing track lengths and authors for all songs
YesY A full list of personnel, including technical personnel and guest musicians
YesY Categorisation at least by artist and year
YesY A casual reader should learn something about the album.Andrzejbanas (talk) 20:43, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Blue in Green composition

Although it's accurate in "tracklisting" to portray the information as it is listed, should this article point out somewhere that "Blue in Green" was composed by Bill Evans, and not Miles Davis?

In case there is contention on this point (which is understandable, as Davis owned the copyright), I'm going from Pettinger (Bill Evans: How My Heart Sings, 1998), who cites both Evans himself and a friend who witnessed the composition.

[edit] Capitalization in albums

there's been some inconsistency in this, I had to relink Sketches of Spain to Sketches Of Spain. The latter is more correct, I believe, aren't all words in album titles capitalized, even articles and prepositions? Or does it rely on the original capitalization as published?

Anyways i wonder if this problem is causing trouble in other album links. --The silentist 07:33, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)

No, the preposition of is not capitalized in this context. The appropriate title is Sketches of Spain, with italics. See the "Music" section, sub-section, "Album titles and band names", in the article, Wikipedia:Naming conventions: Convention: In titles of songs or albums, unless it is unique, the standard rule in the English language is to capitalize words that are the first word in the title and those that are not conjunctions (and, but, or, nor), prepositions (to, over, through) or articles (an, a, the). --Viriditas | Talk 09:42, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Cannonball

I've removed this:

Following Somethin' Else, Kind of Blue is the second album that resulted from the collaboration between Miles Davis and Julian "Cannonball" Adderley.

There are a couple of things wrong with this statement. Firstly, it's the third album Miles and Cannonball made together (Milestones came between the two above). Secondly, it's not a "collaboration" between the two men. Cannonball was part of Miles's group (it's debatable whether Somethin' Else was a collaboration, as Miles seems to have had significant input into the style and tunes selected for the recording as well as playing on it). Kind of Blue is a collaboration, but with Bill Evans, who was brought back to record it, and it's very much in Bill Evans's style. It's also questionable whether the familiar "first time the musicians saw the music was on the recording date" story is entirely true - I've not read Kahn's book, but I believe he says a couple of the tunes were played live before the recording. --Andrew Norman 7 July 2005 20:11 (UTC)

[edit] Appreciation and Trivia

It's hard to find enough good things to say about this album. The playing almost feels lazy, as though the band were having a good time and just laid down a few songs between beers while on holiday. This is a totally false impression for an awful lot of hard work has gone into this nigh miraculous playing. I only feel sorry for those people who don't like it.

Apparently Miles used to tease Bill Evans ("I'm not sure we want any white opinions here.") but he was only having a joke. Miles may have been into Civil Rights and Black Power but he was never a racist. He had far too much respect for the music for that.

[edit] Edit

While I agree that "this album is f**kin' sweet", I think it constitutes POV and have removed it from the "Conception" secion. ;-) Pearce.duncan 04:33, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

I totally agree with the 'sweetness'! I wonder though, since the POV about the greatness of this album is so wide and spans across music genres (people who don't normally 'like jazz'), cultures, and generations, at what point does a qualitative POV become a simple quantitative fact? Similarly it's widely held that 'the Sun is good for the earth'. Even though 'good' is qualitative because it relates to our human experience, thist statement would generally be regarded as a fact.

"And what is good, Phaedrus, and what is not good - need we ask anyone to tell us these things?" - Plato, The Phaedrus

Siraj555 17:03, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Source of Intro to "So What".

The intro to "So What" is very closely based, if not entirely based on Claude Debussy's "Voiles". When in doubt, check it out. Doucetjazz 21:44, 7 April 2007 (UTC)